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Re: Island of Doom [25.Nov.11] - V6 - p1&3

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:26 am

DiM wrote:ok, i'll get on with the changes later today.

Tally-ho!

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Re: Island of Doom [25.Nov.11] - V6 - p1&3

Postby DiM on Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:58 am

V7:
*moved village from Suracca to Qua
*military base +1 autodeploy
*added a graphic explanation for the red zone.
*connected mutobe - umanet and sukele - ketro

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Re: Island of Doom [25.Nov.11] - V6 - p1&3

Postby zimmah on Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:17 am

Victor Sullivan wrote:Whoa, last night was craaaazy, you think to yourself, clutching your throbbing forehead. Wait... What did happen last night? Images flash in your mind in no cohesive order, or none that you seem to grasp. Coloured numbers? More numbers, except these are on squares of green and white? Some weird-looking guy named "zimmah"? You finally resolve not to give a damn, cursing your former self for apparently drinking too much booze. You look around... Trees? Where am I? you ask yourself. You stand up and look around again. Oh, God, oh, God! It can't be! Not again! you think to yourself, as you realize you are stuck once again on...

Gameplay Island.
  • With regard to the objectives, it seems to me the Temple/Volcano objective seems much more feasible than the Antenna/Military Base objective. The temples are more defensible, since two of them only border one other territory (while the Inland Antenna borders 5 territories), they provide a supplement bonus to the village bonus (though small, it is certainly still worth going for, especially considering there aren't many bonuses to be had), and the Military Base is in an auto-decay zone, while the Volcano is more or less in a safe zone. I think a way to balance this out is make the Military Base an auto-deploy +1, connect Mutobe to Umanet, and connect Sukele to Zun or Ketro.
  • No two villages should be adjacent, and no village should be adjacent to a temple or antennae, thus, the village at Suracca should be moved to Qua. This also adds some to the southeast corner of the map that is devoid of villages.
  • Despite there not being any impassables per se, I like how you use connections that avoid going over things like mountains and rivers. Well, all except for the Inland-Leban connection. I think you should do away with it entirely and perhaps connect Leban to Cro, Sefo, or both. In addition, it bothers me that Nukiba only connects to Luutee, when I see no reason why it couldn't connect to Viroga or Burina.
  • The "red zone" is not explicitly specified as to what exactly it is. I think it would be best if you included it in the visual portion of the legend (with it's own fancy text color, perhaps). Also, more as a minor thing, the circle of X's seems rather misshapen. It bothers me. Idk why, though.
  • The script-y font is really bothering me for some reason. And it doesn't scream "doom" to me, especially compared to the title text.
It's a good thing you took that class on bamboo and coconut construction after the last time. The Professor was a bit kooky, but he knew what he was talking about! Hopefully you won't be on this forsaken rock too much longer...

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how's my name weird? :shock:
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Re: Island of Doom [25.Nov.11] - V6 - p1&3

Postby DiM on Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:55 am

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Victor Sullivan wrote:Some weird-looking guy named "zimmah"?


how's my name weird? :shock:


he just said that you're a weird-looking guy not that your name is weird :o
at least he said you're a guy. i called you a fair maiden :lol:
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Re: Island of Doom [25.Nov.11] - V6 - p1&3

Postby Victor Sullivan on Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:06 am

DiM wrote:
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Victor Sullivan wrote:Some weird-looking guy named "zimmah"?


how's my name weird? :shock:


he just said that you're a weird-looking guy not that your name is weird :o
at least he said you're a guy. i called you a fair maiden :lol:

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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:25 am

I'm not so keen on the font in the legend. I think it works on the map, since you aren't reading sentences, and your eyes are essentially looking for shapes and unique single word names. But in the legend, the current iteration of the font is a little tough on the eyes.

Keep up the good work.


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Re: Island of Doom [25.Nov.11] - V6 - p1&3

Postby zimmah on Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:26 pm

DiM wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Victor Sullivan wrote:Some weird-looking guy named "zimmah"?


how's my name weird? :shock:


he just said that you're a weird-looking guy not that your name is weird :o
at least he said you're a guy. i called you a fair maiden :lol:


lol ye, i misread that. either way, why am i weird? :roll:

and yes, i'll never forget you calling me a maiden, and then to think you wanted some steamy action with me.... you have some explaining to do to your gf/wife.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:21 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I'm not so keen on the font in the legend. I think it works on the map, since you aren't reading sentences, and your eyes are essentially looking for shapes and unique single word names. But in the legend, the current iteration of the font is a little tough on the eyes.

Keep up the good work.


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+1

Anyone else find it odd that there are footprints going across the water in several parts of the map? Is this Island of Jesus?
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby DiM on Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:40 pm

lostatlimbo wrote:Anyone else find it odd that there are footprints going across the water in several parts of the map? Is this Island of Jesus?



it's for consistency reasons.
having different paths for land/sea could lead to possible confusion among players.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:37 pm

DiM wrote:
lostatlimbo wrote:Anyone else find it odd that there are footprints going across the water in several parts of the map? Is this Island of Jesus?



it's for consistency reasons.
having different paths for land/sea could lead to possible confusion among players.

I think it works. The paths are unique enough and interesting enough to the eye.


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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby DiM on Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:52 am

any gameplay related issues? is this clear and ready?
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:05 pm

Sorry for the delay, I will take a look again at this this evening.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:44 am

I think the gameplay is clear, but have you considered adding a 'red zone' -1 decay around the Volcano too? Would even it out with the Military Base a little more and you could drop the +1 offset. And it makes sense that the area directly around a Volcano would be volatile and deadly.

Just a thought.

For the legend, you could make the icons a bit smaller to give yourself room to increas the font size. Do you need Military Base listed in the legend?

I also think it would look great if it looked written on the parchment.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby WestWind on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:58 am

First: I'm really liking this map so far!

Second, I agree with the comments about the font. It kinda hurts, and I have good vision.

Finally, I take it that the military base has a +1 autodeploy as well as the -1 for being in the red zone? If so, would it be easier to just say, "Military base does not decay" or something along those lines? As it is right now, I think a player could be confused into thinking that the base gets a +1 autodeploy and does not decay.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:15 pm


These are some decent choices.


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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby DiM on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:44 pm

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These are some decent choices.


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i really like the first one but unfortunately it doesn't fit quite good :(

i found something else but i need to know if you guys want just the legend font changed or also the terits.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby DiM on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:45 pm

WestWind wrote:First: I'm really liking this map so far!

Second, I agree with the comments about the font. It kinda hurts, and I have good vision.

Finally, I take it that the military base has a +1 autodeploy as well as the -1 for being in the red zone? If so, would it be easier to just say, "Military base does not decay" or something along those lines? As it is right now, I think a player could be confused into thinking that the base gets a +1 autodeploy and does not decay.


actually my intention is to give +1 for holding the military base but i forgot about the -1 from the virus so i've modified the legend to say the military base gets +2.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby zimmah on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:48 pm

DiM wrote:
WestWind wrote:First: I'm really liking this map so far!

Second, I agree with the comments about the font. It kinda hurts, and I have good vision.

Finally, I take it that the military base has a +1 autodeploy as well as the -1 for being in the red zone? If so, would it be easier to just say, "Military base does not decay" or something along those lines? As it is right now, I think a player could be confused into thinking that the base gets a +1 autodeploy and does not decay.


actually my intention is to give +1 for holding the military base but i forgot about the -1 from the virus so i've modified the legend to say the military base gets +2.


so it gets +2 for real, or it gets +2-1= +1 in effect?
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:54 pm

DiM wrote:
WestWind wrote:First: I'm really liking this map so far!

Second, I agree with the comments about the font. It kinda hurts, and I have good vision.

Finally, I take it that the military base has a +1 autodeploy as well as the -1 for being in the red zone? If so, would it be easier to just say, "Military base does not decay" or something along those lines? As it is right now, I think a player could be confused into thinking that the base gets a +1 autodeploy and does not decay.


actually my intention is to give +1 for holding the military base but i forgot about the -1 from the virus so i've modified the legend to say the military base gets +2.

I don't think that's necessary. I think one can safely assume the Military Base is immune if it auto-deploys one.

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Postby DiM on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:00 pm

if you hold the military base you get 1 troops added there each turn.
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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:01 pm

DiM wrote:if you hold the military base you get 1 troops added there each turn.

Yes.

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Postby DiM on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:04 pm

would this font fit better?

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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:10 pm

DiM wrote:would this font fit better?

I think it is step in the right direction. I think keeping the region font where it is, is probably alright---since as mentioned, you are just reading one word, and not a paragraph of sorts. But if you want to change it for consistency, you can always approach that route. I think I'm fond of it on the actual map, just not in the legend.


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Re: Island of Doom [28.Nov.11] - V7 - p1&5

Postby lostatlimbo on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:56 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:would this font fit better?

I think it is step in the right direction. I think keeping the region font where it is, is probably alright---since as mentioned, you are just reading one word, and not a paragraph of sorts. But if you want to change it for consistency, you can always approach that route. I think I'm fond of it on the actual map, just not in the legend.


--Andy


I agree. I think this is an instance where its ok to have different fonts on the map v legend.

I think the font in your example looks pretty good, but you could probably darken the oranges and yellows a little.
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