Conquer Club

natty_dread wrote:Ok, the text looks much better now.

Now... there are a few places where the borders are a bit ambiguous. Jagakarsa - Cilandak: the border is so small it's easy to miss, same but opposite on Pesanggrahan - Cilandak: the territory in between, Lama, is so narrow near the land edge that it could cause confusion... I suggest making those a bit clearer.

Like this then.

I think this is over due for a sticky

Thanks TBK, was starting to get that sinking feeling. Made my day this has.

That just goes to show how bad today has been.

OK, as we move out of the drafting room into the main part of the foundry, I would like to try and leave graphics alone and concentrate on gameplay. As this is a classic city, I would rather not provide a mediocre map that will get played once or twice and then forgotten. So, everything is open to debate from bonus zones, values, impassables, neutral values. Open or closed style. Everything. The only thing that will be closed to debate is the territ lines. As this is the city as is so moving them, you remove the city. I tweaked them for natty as he made the point of clarity but the gameplay was not compromised.

After that, we can get onto graphics but please leave any ideas you have.

Lets have your ideas then. This is your map.

I know you want to focus more on tackling gp atm, but I think a minimap might hep clarify the legend because, imo your colors don't match.

And do they really not use bridges in Jakarta? because so many ferries seems ineffcient and the mp might benefit graphically from some bridges.

So the gp looks pretty good to me and I guess I just have graphics comments for future consideration. Though really I'd recommend making small graphic changes as you go along, even if you're focusing on gp atm.

Bridges can go in, no problem and a mini map is always a good idea. Will add them to the list of things to do.

Jakarta had a river ferry service that had to close down because of the rubbish in the rivers. When I read that, it seemed different than having bridges, but why not have bridges.

Added the mini map and bridges. Starting to work on the river.
Reduced the Airport neutral to 3 so it comes into play earlier.
Version 4.

unfortunately, you still gotta name your bonus regions, but the minimap looks great imo... i think you can squeeze some names on there. The bridges are a little weak imo. you might try some freeway style bridges or even some wooden ones.

Will do.

Version 5


Mini map names and new bridges. THe top two need to be scaled down some but need opinions on if these work first?

And now I would say that this is over due for a stamps so...

Koontz asked me, what types of buildings fit every region.

(Note : I don't mind if you put rumah gadang on the map. Because that is the traditional building from Padang, Sumatra, where I come from. But other Indonesian will be angry, lol)

* Jakarta Barat (West Jakarta)

There is a big Landmark in this region : Taman Anggrek. This is a picture I found trough googling :
In this region there are many good Universities, one of them is Bina Nusantara, a good university for IT.

* Jakarata Selatan (South Jakarta)

Jakarta Selatan is the Shopping Paradise in Indonesia. These are 3 of them :

Blok M Mall

Cilandak Town Square

Pondoh Indah Mall

* Jakarta Pusat (centre Jakarta)

Only 1 building match this region : The Landmark of Jakarta

Monumen Nasional

* Jakarta Utara (North Jakarta)

Koontz already knows this is an Industrial Region. I have no idea what is the best building here.

* Jakarta Timur (East Jakarta)

The best place to visit here is Taman Mini Indonesia. And the location fit in the existing Legend on the Map.

Hope this helps

Thanks a lot Geger. Hope to do some of those justice.

Latest image.


Been a while,about time I got round to this one.

Are there any GP features that need to be addressed or is there anything else that someone would like to be put in?

Sorry for the delay, I will take a look again at this this evening.

At a close look, I thought "How does Andy have any game play value on the map?" Then it was like, oh the monkey is just for decoration!

Anyhow, I think that Pusat probably is a tad undervalued, considering that it is in the center of the map for all intensive purposes. Plus all but one territory borders another bonus. It could probably be increased to +7, maybe +8.

Where you have "Darker territories ..." Reword it to read " Like a true Classic City, Jakarta has many expats living there - darker territories - These ..." I think this makes it a little more clearer as to where the expats are. I'll get the other CA's to take a look at this, and maybe we can get this stamped soon!

isaiah40 wrote:At a close look, I thought "How does Andy have any game play value on the map?" Then it was like, oh the monkey is just for decoration!

Anyhow, I think that Pusat probably is a tad undervalued, considering that it is in the center of the map for all intensive purposes. Plus all but one territory borders another bonus. It could probably be increased to +7, maybe +8.

Where you have "Darker territories ..." Reword it to read " Like a true Classic City, Jakarta has many expats living there - darker territories - These ..." I think this makes it a little more clearer as to where the expats are. I'll get the other CA's to take a look at this, and maybe we can get this stamped soon!

As isaiah said, Pusat would do much better as a +8. Also, I believe Timur should be upped to +5, as it's not much different from Selatan, which is of equal value.

-Sully

I'm trying to hard to like this map, but just something about the mish-mash of styles and colors must be out of my taste, so I'm afraid I can't be of much help in the development.

Best of luck,


--Andy

Per map makers request, this map has been put on vacation.

[MOVED]

After all the comments about the style not having a focus, I got to play around a bit and remembering a painting my father has, tried to emulate that. If it does not work, then back it can go till I find more of a focus.


Title needs to be worked over to bring it into line with the rest of the image but thought I would see if the community liked this approach.

You're going to need a better texture than GIMP's default "apply canvas" filter.

natty_dread wrote:You're going to need a better texture than GIMP's default "apply canvas" filter.

I know, this was just a quick mock up, to see if it all fitted and did it work. I am working on the canvas texture at the moment but still not right. It might be a better idea to go down the linen route as that is a finer thread.

Here is the linen.

Hm... your texture is not showing well on the bright areas which leads me to believe you're using soft light mode for it?

I usually solve the issue by duplicating the texture layer and setting the other copy on grain merge, then adjusting the opacities of both layers until a good balance is found.

natty_dread wrote:Hm... your texture is not showing well on the bright areas which leads me to believe you're using soft light mode for it?

I usually solve the issue by duplicating the texture layer and setting the other copy on grain merge, then adjusting the opacities of both layers until a good balance is found.

Thanks.