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Postby spiesr on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:13 pm

Hawai seems way too unconnected, (Can only be attacked from one which can also only be attacked by one!)
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:46 pm

Spiesr...


---Not all countries, especially continents on the edge of a map, are going to have more than one access point. Hawaii is a rather mute point. Now if Aquaria was larger, and it only had one route to get in, that would be a different story. And as it is, Aquaria has 2 border routes in..plenty for such a little area.


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Postby Jota on Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:53 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Really only a minor thing, have you looked into other images for the bridges?


Folks seemed more or less content with the bridges (aside from the band-aid and visibility issues, which I think I've fixed), but here are some more options:

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As you can see, they're generally not so great. The only one of the new four that I like at all is the arrow, since it matches the other arrows, so I could switch to that if people wanted. But otherwise, I'm inclined to just go with the "road slugs".

Also, Andy mentioned another thing to me: I haven't really been consistent over whether it's called "United States of Apocalypse" or just "USApocalypse". Before I formally picked one or the other, I thought I'd check if there was a strong preference on the forum between the two versions of the name.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:03 pm

---Well if you only want to use the arrows or the slugs, use the slugs please! (Though I particularly like the northern most one). This reminds me of the situation in the Middle Earth map, where people disliked the red dot connectors all over the map--I feel the same way about the arrows.

---As for the name, I like the longer one for the 'official' name, but the shorter one works well for discussion and the 'Start a game' page.


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Postby Evil Pope on Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:04 pm

Personally, I think you should stick with the United States of Apocalypse..
As for the bridges, I like the arrow.. I think you should use them instead of the "road slugs"..
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:29 pm

Road slugs are better and so is the longer name.
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Postby rocksolid on Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:22 pm

Longer name; for bridges, a variant on the Sanders bridge. The road slugs don't make me think of bridges at all.
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Postby Jota on Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:34 pm

Sanders/Illinois or Sanders/Indiana?
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Postby rocksolid on Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:48 pm

Sorry, Sanders/Indiana.
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Postby Jota on Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:39 pm

Unsurprisingly, I suppose, opinions are completely mixed. So it looks like we'll be defaulting to the original version.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:43 pm

---Damn free thought. ;)


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Postby spiesr on Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:14 pm

I suggest changes Minnesota to Mosquitoes.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:16 pm

Or perhpas "Viks" or some variant of vikings. Really this is a mute point.

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Postby Jota on Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:27 pm

I think I've got about the right mix of fake/real names right now: If I tip the balance too much further, we'll start lose some of the advantage of using familiar territory.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:54 pm

                  Quenching


The Final Forge period has concluded for the United States of Apocalypse Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!


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Postby Haydena on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:26 am

I wonder how many three player games we are going to have with one player starting with all the radioactive sites and gaining 9 on the first turn... Hehe, I'd like to watch those games :twisted:
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Postby Jota on Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:33 am

On average, one out of every 243 three-player games will start that way.

But I suspect that about two-thirds of the time, someone will take away at least one of those countries before the lucky player gets to even take one turn.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:32 am

does that mean lack can put this up. I want to play it more than any toher map.
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Postby Jota on Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:20 am

I think he was just a bit busy yesterday, between being out of town and then saving the world^H^H^H^H^Hsite and all. Hopefully he'll put it up today.
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Postby General Mayhem on Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:18 pm

you really need to explain the final version and how it works somewhere please?!
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Postby mrdexter on Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:22 pm

It's all their on the map. Basically continent bonuses work as per normal maps. Radiation countries have negative effect or bonuses depending on how many you have as per the map.
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Postby Jota on Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:51 pm

Yeah, I thought the legends were clear enough. What else is there to explain?
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Postby ChaunceyMo on Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:18 pm

How about what a radiation nexus bonus is?

2006-06-26 22:19:16 - <player> receives -2 armies for holding irradiated territory
2006-06-26 22:19:16 - <player> receives 1 armies for holding a radiation nexus

No mention of a radiation nexus on the map itself or in the legend. This was first turn, so it seems like he just got a free army for no good reason. Might be good to include an explanation of this somewhere.

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Postby Jota on Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:27 pm

A radiation nexus is just two or more irradiated countries. The player received -2 armies and +1 army, for a total of -1 armies.
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Postby kibblesmania on Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:15 pm

Jota wrote:On average, one out of every 243 three-player games will start that way.

But I suspect that about two-thirds of the time, someone will take away at least one of those countries before the lucky player gets to even take one turn.


where did u learn math? i got 1 out of 729
-solution- 3^6 (3 to the power of 6) i think u only did it for 5 counties but there is 6
3^5=243
3^6=729
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