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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby espaliers on Sat May 12, 2012 3:33 am

Hi,

I'm playing right now on eurasia full version in game 11067155. I own germany, switzerland and austria, but no bonus is credited to me. Do I need to geet Italy too to get it or is it a bug ?

I think I will love this map. Good job.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Sat May 12, 2012 5:32 am

You need italy
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby grunion on Sat May 12, 2012 8:28 am

chapcrap wrote:The India thing doesn't matter much to me, but if the guy from India says it's wrong, I'd probably change it.
Actually to press the point beyond where it should go, it's curious that the named territories in India are named for cities (as are only 3 or 4 other territories on the map) instead of their regions which would make more sense with how the rest of the map was designed. Madras can be named Kerala or Tamil Nadu, Mumbai can be Maharastra or Gujarat, and Delhi can be Uttar Pradesh or Haryana (or just North India). But even the states I named are just parts of the regions as you have drawn them, so that's not likely a big help. If you want I can try to come up with more "regional" type names.

I realize I'm late to the party here, and realize that for any of my suggestions will make it into final release of what otherwise is playing to be a really great map is unrealistic.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Sat May 12, 2012 9:49 am

Thing is, on a map of this scale, it's pretty much impossible to come up with accurate names for all territories, unless one were to go the Europa route of only using countries for territories, which I really dislike as it presents a whole host of other problems - namely, that it doesn't make any sense that the same 1 army can be used to either hold Ireland or Russia...

Thus I think the best solution is to find a balance of using country names, state names, region names or city names where applicable - I think it's best to use the most recognizable names, even if they're not always totally accurate, and Mumbai and Delhi are much more recognizable than Maharastra or Uttar Pradesh.

I think I'm going to just rename Madras to Chennai, and leave it at that. I'll wait to see if there are other changes to be done, but the name change will be in the next update.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby grunion on Sat May 12, 2012 9:57 am

natty dread wrote:Thing is, on a map of this scale, it's pretty much impossible to come up with accurate names for all territories, unless one were to go the Europa route of only using countries for territories, which I really dislike as it presents a whole host of other problems - namely, that it doesn't make any sense that the same 1 army can be used to either hold Ireland or Russia...

Thus I think the best solution is to find a balance of using country names, state names, region names or city names where applicable - I think it's best to use the most recognizable names, even if they're not always totally accurate, and Mumbai and Delhi are much more recognizable than Maharastra or Uttar Pradesh.

I think I'm going to just rename Madras to Chennai, and leave it at that. I'll wait to see if there are other changes to be done, but the name change will be in the next update.
Makes sense. Thanks for your consideration.
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Re: Eurasia - Mini edition!

Postby SurgeonDestroy on Tue May 15, 2012 7:25 pm

natty dread wrote:Anyway, this is just an idea, and I'll let the CA:s figure out whether this is something that should be pursued.

Personally, I think this is something that could be beneficial for CC in the future, when more and more people want to use CC on mobile devices.


I do at least 1/2 to 3/4 of my moves on a mobile device. I thinks it's a great idea to have more " mini" maps.
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Re: Eurasia - Mini edition!

Postby grunion on Mon May 21, 2012 3:49 am

SurgeonDestroy wrote:I do at least 1/2 to 3/4 of my moves on a mobile device. I thinks it's a great idea to have more " mini" maps.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Mon May 21, 2012 4:14 am

Things that may help somewhat: enable fullscreen mode by pressing F11 (if you use firefox) and you can also zoom out by pressing ctrl -
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby army of nobunaga on Mon May 21, 2012 10:38 pm

i have to admit... i expect eurasia mini to be one on the best maps in the game... IF I COULD GET a friggin game on it.. noone is playing it.


and I still say screw you natty.. but good work.. really screw you.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby chapcrap on Tue May 22, 2012 5:05 am

army of nobunaga wrote:i have to admit... i expect eurasia mini to be one on the best maps in the game... IF I COULD GET a friggin game on it.. noone is playing it.


and I still say screw you natty.. but good work.. really screw you.

Start a game on it. Someone will join you.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby saxitoxin on Tue May 22, 2012 1:47 pm

army of nobunaga wrote:i have to admit... i expect eurasia mini to be one on the best maps in the game... IF I COULD GET a friggin game on it.. noone is playing it.


and I still say screw you natty.. but good work.. really screw you.


AoN, I concur --- it looks beautiful and I have a message already composed, just waiting to post on Nathan's wall to tell him how marvelous it is, however, I can't - in good conscious - do that until I have played it and no one is willing to play on it.

People are treating this as a Museum Map - look but don't touch.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby army of nobunaga on Tue May 22, 2012 2:02 pm

I finally got in a game with it... I like it. It is living up to my dreams so far.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby saxitoxin on Tue May 22, 2012 2:07 pm

army of nobunaga wrote:I finally got in a game with it... I like it. It is living up to my dreams so far.


I'm in the middle of one right now - it's all that I hoped for and more!

Natty Dread - you are making my wildest dreams come true!
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby wi1bert on Tue May 29, 2012 3:02 pm

Congrats on a great map. Won a foggy game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11056374

One potential bug, may have been mentioned, apologies if it has.

Foggy game and Scandinavia incorrectly showed me how many soldiers an opponent had deployed there. With no adjacent territeries owned. I think it was either when I took Germany or Scotland. Sorry should have made a note of it.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Wed May 30, 2012 6:28 am

Germany and scotland both connect to the nordics.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby wi1bert on Wed May 30, 2012 5:31 pm

Sorry didn't make myself clear. Troops at South Sweden showed up from either germany or scotland even though they ate not connected?
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Wed May 30, 2012 11:13 pm

Well if that's true then it's a game bug, not a map bug, but I have a feeling you probably held some territory next to it without realizing... South sweden connects to Denmark, Norway and Norrland. Maybe you held one of those.

If you can recreate the bug, report it in bug reports.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby saxitoxin on Thu May 31, 2012 12:37 pm

I have basically become a monster on Eurasia Mini. No one can beat me on it. It's lifted me from being a Cadet to whatever I am now.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby ComposerNate on Thu May 31, 2012 2:44 pm

Beautiful maps, natty. I notice a couple people have asked about Italy. It's definitely easy to not notice the stripes, for two reasons: the colors are pretty similar and the stripes run the same way as the shape of the peninsula. If they were oriented differently it would be more obvious, but you have all the striped territories at the same angle, so changing one would probably require changing them all. It seems to me that 90 degrees counterclockwise or 45 clockwise would be the two best options. Maybe it's too late to mess with, but just thought I'd put it out there.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu May 31, 2012 3:08 pm

ComposerNate wrote:Beautiful maps, natty. I notice a couple people have asked about Italy. It's definitely easy to not notice the stripes, for two reasons: the colors are pretty similar and the stripes run the same way as the shape of the peninsula. If they were oriented differently it would be more obvious, but you have all the striped territories at the same angle, so changing one would probably require changing them all. It seems to me that 90 degrees counterclockwise or 45 clockwise would be the two best options. Maybe it's too late to mess with, but just thought I'd put it out there.

Since there is less land area for the stripes to stand out, perhaps simply more contrast between the two colors can help highlight the stripes.


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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Thu May 31, 2012 11:54 pm

hm, changing the stripe orientation probly not gonna happen but we'll see about colour
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby Woltato on Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:22 am

Eurasia-mini is a great map. Small maps are better imo as it forces the action more than bigger maps.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby 1stSplatter on Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:56 am

First off I love these maps. I wanted to make a suggestion about Hungary: could it be made into a 3-way split? Hungary has historically been very important to Central Europe as well. (Having been part of a political entity with Austria and all. A rather influential one.)

It would be an interesting nuance for The West.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby natty dread on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:52 am

Not going to happen, sorry. It'd be awkward both graphically and gameplayatically.
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Re: Eurasia [Map Pack]

Postby chapcrap on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:22 am

Instead of making Hungary more important, can we just quench the maps?
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