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Re: Eurasia - Mini edition!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:31 am
by natty dread
Ok, small graphical update.

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Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:40 am
by isaiah40
Where Near East, Mediterranean and Southeast Europe meet, I think that you can extend Near East further so that the western border of Southeast Europe and Near East match up because on the small I believe that it will be difficult to tell where the borders are.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:50 am
by natty dread
Yeah, and there are a couple of other places that could use some clarification. I'll do those next.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:49 pm
by AndyDufresne
I'm excited that this map could be a reality. Ha. :D


--Andy

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:14 pm
by Bleed_Green
This is the first map that I have ever commented on. I like the small game play and having the small bonuses having 3 to 4 attack points.. it will give a different strategy to the game vs something some other maps bonuses only have a single choke point to defend

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:17 pm
by natty dread
Bleed_Green wrote:This is the first map that I have ever commented on. I like the small game play and having the small bonuses having 3 to 4 attack points.. it will give a different strategy to the game vs something some other maps bonuses only have a single choke point to defend


Glad you like it! If you also like large maps, you might want to check out the main Eurasia map as well, which is in the main foundry.

Currently it looks like both maps are likely to be made, but the larger Eurasia map will probably be playable first.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:37 pm
by natty dread
Fixed borders.

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Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:43 pm
by lostatlimbo
Glad to see this version is still going. I was worried someone would squash it for being too similar.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:32 pm
by chapcrap
From a playing on a phone standpoint, this map would be great.

I do like the idea and the theme.

Someone already commented on the East India legibility issue. I'm seeing some of the same with Mediterranean. It goes from dark to lighter in the background a lot there. Makes it difficult to see.

Also, the map title doesn't seem to fit the the map, IMO.

I'm not sure about what the person who mentioned oversaturation was talking about. I like the colors, I like the color density around the continental borders. The longitudinal lines in the background are a good touch.

The sea route from Far East to Philippines...should it be coming from Japan instead of Korea? It wouldn't have to be as "stretched." Not sure which of those options I would like better.

Overall, I like it. 27 territories is a good number for a small map.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:16 am
by natty dread
chapcrap wrote:Also, the map title doesn't seem to fit the the map, IMO.


How do you mean?

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:58 am
by chapcrap
The title's two different fonts don't match each other or the fonts on the map.

I would try to make the title similar to what you have done with the continent bonuses.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:32 am
by natty dread
Well I can't see how that could be, seeing as the title has only one font, which is the same font as on the legend. :-s

All the other stuff you said I'll look into though.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:04 pm
by chapcrap
natty dread wrote:Well I can't see how that could be, seeing as the title has only one font, which is the same font as on the legend. :-s

All the other stuff you said I'll look into though.

Well then it's stylized in two different ways. You can't try and tell me that Eurasia and Mini look the same. I don't think it looks great like that.

I think part of might be the way that Eurasia is curved as well. The map is curved in the opposite way of the word Eurasia.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:22 pm
by natty dread
chapcrap wrote:Well then it's stylized in two different ways.


Yes, and there's a thematic reason for it. This is the Mini -version of the actual Eurasia map. It's a common thing for designers of product packaging, when there are multiple versions of a product, to print the "version modifier" in a different style, or even a different font. Think of regular beer and light beer, for example. You have one can that says "Beer" and another can that says "Beer Light".

As for the main title, the Eurasia part, it's in the same style as on the original map. A decision was made that this map should be made in the same graphical style as the original map, because otherwise it wouldn't be a Mini-version, but an entirely different map...

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:00 pm
by chapcrap
Well, I think it would look better if the title curved with the globe/map.

And I haven't looked at the big version enough to know, but it is the same as this, I would have the same comment there.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:31 pm
by natty dread
Well, I disagree.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:41 pm
by chapcrap
natty dread wrote:Well, I disagree.

Well, I went and looked at the big Eurasia and it is better there. It's barely curved. Only turned down at the edges and the key information underneath the title prevents it from being curved the other way anyway. Now that I look at this one more, it isn't quite as curved as I originally thought and I think it's ok. I retract my earlier statement about the curve. I think I have more of a problem with the Mini part and the slant of it being so contrary to everything else. Can you make it the same size as the Eurasia portion of the title and not slanted?

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:17 pm
by natty dread
Well, first of all, it's not slanted - it's italicized. I kind of think it should be in italic, as it's a modifier to the original title, refering again to my earlier light beer example...

However, I think I have a solution in mind for this.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:02 am
by chapcrap
I know it's italicized. You know what that does? It slants the letters. So it is slanted.

What's your solution?

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:06 am
by natty dread
chapcrap wrote:I know it's italicized. You know what that does? It slants the letters. So it is slanted.


Well, as long as we're nitpicking - it doesn't slant them, it shears them. ;)

As for my solution you'll just have to wait and see.

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:52 am
by chapcrap
natty dread wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I know it's italicized. You know what that does? It slants the letters. So it is slanted.


Well, as long as we're nitpicking - it doesn't slant them, it shears them. ;)

As for my solution you'll just have to wait and see.

FINE!

Re: Eurasia Mini [2.2.12] p2

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:21 pm
by natty dread
Some Changes

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Re: Eurasia Mini [19.2.12] p4

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:52 pm
by Industrial Helix
Welp, this one is looking good. Time to kick it up a notch and move it on.

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Re: Eurasia Mini [19.2.12] p4

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:22 am
by natty dread
Thanks!

Re: Eurasia Mini [19.2.12] p4

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:58 pm
by thenobodies80
Ok, since I'm one of the person who thought that have a smaller version of the eurasia map is a good idea, it's supposed i have to follow this map more closely than others. And since I like small maps, why not to help a bit ?

So, to start the gameplay balancement/discussion.....what's your plan with the gameplay natty?

edit: btw i see now that you added an additional connection for the european russia/near east issue....good! :D