Conquer Club

Gilligan wrote:....

The way I understood it from its original post (viewtopic.php?f=127&t=175704) is that it does override. Guess I was wrong, good catch nolefan.

That makes me wonder if the "mandatory" takes are counted in the "required"? That's a very important part.

So Gilligan, do you think my post above would be correct?

Jippd wrote:I think the map could do with an explanation of the ability of how to attack from or attack the region. It could be the same as the town explanation but under the capital description.

"Attacks towns inside it's kraj and the region it is located in."

I will wait to Beta. then we will see if it is clear or not

Gilligan, cairns thanks for all work around xml.

Oneyed

Mandatory regions are always mandatory to qualify for a bonus....the name is self explanatory
So if you have any bonus collection with a list of required levels, you need to hold all the mandatory region(s) to qualify for that bonus(es). No mandatory region(s) = no bonus.
Mandatory are part of the required count also.
Bonuses always sum together with collections, they do not override. So instead of writing the total value you want as bonus value, you need to calculate how much is already given to you by previous "lower" level of bonuses. The higher bonus you can get from a collection is the sum of all bonus listed into the <bonuses> tag. The fact you qualify for an higher level doesn't mean you don't qualify anymore for the lower one.

e.g.

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<continent>
   <name>Bonus Name</name>
   <bonuses>
     <bonus required="2">1</bonus>
     <bonus required="3">1</bonus>
     <bonus required="4">1</bonus>
   </bonuses>
   <components>
      <territory type="mandatory">TerrA</territory>
      <territory>TerrB</territory>
      <territory>TerrC</territory>
      <territory>TerrD</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

If you hold TerrB and/or TerrC and/or TerrD but you don't hold TerrA --> you receive nothing
If you hold TerrA + 1 of the others components --> you receive 1 additional troop
If you hold TerrA + 2 of the others components --> you receive 2 additional troop
If you hold TerrA + 3 of the others components --> you receive 3 additional troop

Let me know if something is not clear
Nobodies

p.s. remember that the bonus name is just one.

so tnb80, having read your above post is this below correct?

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<!-- Defining capitals and 4 towns positive bonus-->
<continent>
   <name>Praha and 4 Towns</name>
   <bonuses>
          <bonus required="5">1</bonus>
     <bonus required="9">1</bonus>
     <bonus required="13">1</bonus>
   </bonuses>
   <components>
      <territory type="mandatory">Praha</territory>
      <territory>Ústí n/Labem</territory>
      <territory>Liberec</territory>
      <territory>Karlovy Vary</territory>
      <territory>Plzeň</territory>
      <territory>Kladno</territory>
      <territory>Beroun</territory>
      <territory>Hradec Králové</territory>
      <territory>Pardubice</territory>
      <territory>České Budějovice</territory>
      <territory>Tábor</territory>
      <territory>Jihlava</territory>
      <territory>Brno</territory>
      <territory>Olomouc</territory>
      <territory>Ostrava</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

Looks like it, cairns. The uncertainty that I had was from the required tags and whether or not it included the mandatory tag. Thanks nobodies for clearing that up.

cairnswk wrote:so tnb80, having read your above post is this below correct?

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<!-- Defining capitals and 4 towns positive bonus-->
<continent>
   <name>Praha and 4 Towns</name>
   <bonuses>
          <bonus required="5">1</bonus>
     <bonus required="9">1</bonus>
     <bonus required="13">1</bonus>
   </bonuses>
   <components>
      <territory type="mandatory">Praha</territory>
      <territory>Ústí n/Labem</territory>
      <territory>Liberec</territory>
      <territory>Karlovy Vary</territory>
      <territory>Plzeň</territory>
      <territory>Kladno</territory>
      <territory>Beroun</territory>
      <territory>Hradec Králové</territory>
      <territory>Pardubice</territory>
      <territory>České Budějovice</territory>
      <territory>Tábor</territory>
      <territory>Jihlava</territory>
      <territory>Brno</territory>
      <territory>Olomouc</territory>
      <territory>Ostrava</territory>
   </components>
</continent>

Yeah, it is correct. If you hold Praha and 4 towns you receive +1, with praha and 9 you receive +2 (total 1+1), with praha and 13 you receive +3 (total 1+1+1)

The only concern I have is the current bonus name. Actually it is printed in the log only when you hold the higher bonus (i know it's a stupid and unfriendly thing ) so the player will read that he holds Praha and 4 regions, when it's not....infact he holds praha and 13 towns in that case. read what i wrote as note in the guide for collections to give names to bonuses, at least till the moment I can obtain a fix to have a proper/dedicated name to list all bonuses into collections.

Nobodies

^^ thank-you, i will get onto it today.

Oneyed, attached is the xml i have done so far.
But when run through the xml tool i get this warning...

Test results:

Warning: Territory Praha has border Kladno, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Praha has border StČK, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Bratislava has border Trenčín, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Bratislava has border ZSK, but not vice versa

Summary: 0 errors and 4 warnings detected in FCSFR3_110113.xml (18 continents, 35 territories)

My question is....can Kladno attack Praha...and all the rest?

Also, in the map, you have both kraj and kraje...is this plural?

cairnswk wrote:Oneyed, attached is the xml i have done so far.
But when run through the xml tool i get this warning...

My question is....can Kladno attack Praha...and all the rest?

yes. capitals could be attacked from region they are in, from towns in the same region and from town adjacent by railway. and all these 8 teritories (StČK, Kladno, Beroun, Tábor, ZSK, Trenčín, Kúty, Nitra) are codded as starting positions. the rest teritories will be divided random.

cairnswk wrote:Also, in the map, you have both kraj and kraje...is this plural?

right.

Oneyed

I'm happy this map is advancing. I hope BETA will come soon.

Oneyed wrote:

cairnswk wrote:Oneyed, attached is the xml i have done so far.
But when run through the xml tool i get this warning...

My question is....can Kladno attack Praha...and all the rest?

yes. capitals could be attacked from region they are in, from towns in the same region and from town adjacent by railway. and all these 8 teritories (StČK, Kladno, Beroun, Tábor, ZSK, Trenčín, Kúty, Nitra) are codded as starting positions. the rest teritories will be divided random.

cairnswk wrote:Also, in the map, you have both kraj and kraje...is this plural?

right.

Oneyed

Thank-you for that info.

Test results:
Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in FCSFR4_200113.xml (18 continents, 35 territories)

Finished xml as attached and in the XML checker.
Oneyed, i do think you should put on map something about kraj and towns being able to assault capitals in those regions and vice-versa...just to clarify for the players.

cairnswk wrote:Oneyed, i do think you should put on map something about kraj and towns being able to assault capitals in those regions and vice-versa...just to clarify for the players.

I will find any space in legend for this.

Oneyed

Are you saying you can't find space oneyed?

Jippd wrote:Are you saying you can't find space oneyed?

not as I want...
but could this works?



Oneyed

Oneyed, almost there...perhaps (my thoughts only)...
Praha - capital, borders Kraj and Towns in its Kraj
- is not included in town or Kraj bonus
+1...
-1...
...less wordy, yes?

see what others think also

much better, cairns

explained capitals connections




Oneyed

cairnswk wrote:

Oneyed wrote:

cairnswk wrote:Oneyed, attached is the xml i have done so far.
But when run through the xml tool i get this warning...

My question is....can Kladno attack Praha...and all the rest?

yes. capitals could be attacked from region they are in, from towns in the same region and from town adjacent by railway. and all these 8 teritories (StČK, Kladno, Beroun, Tábor, ZSK, Trenčín, Kúty, Nitra) are codded as starting positions. the rest teritories will be divided random.

cairnswk wrote:Also, in the map, you have both kraj and kraje...is this plural?

right.

Oneyed

Thank-you for that info.

Test results:
Summary: 0 errors and 0 warnings detected in FCSFR4_200113.xml (18 continents, 35 territories)

Finished xml as attached and in the XML checker.
Oneyed, i do think you should put on map something about kraj and towns being able to assault capitals in those regions and vice-versa...just to clarify for the players.

Cairns,

For some reason the download attachment is not working for me. Can you download it to a website and link it please?

Gilligan wrote:...Cairns,
For some reason the download attachment is not working for me. Can you download it to a website and link it please?

Gill. you'll have to open this in wordpad, as it's the only program that keeps all the accents etc.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12/21 ... 200113.xml

cairnswk wrote:

Gilligan wrote:...Cairns,
For some reason the download attachment is not working for me. Can you download it to a website and link it please?

Gill. you'll have to open this in wordpad, as it's the only program that keeps all the accents etc.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/12/21 ... 200113.xml

the program I use took the older version of the xml, so I'm not sure what went wrong

anyway, I will have this checked. thanks.

koontz1973 wrote:If you put positions into this game, you will harm the larger games and team games.

pamoa wrote:as for the easiest bonus one need to hold a minimum of 4 territories
I don't see any need to code starting position

Oneyed wrote:ok, pamoa. and thanks

so map will be without starting positions. there will be just Praha and Bratislava codded as neutrals n4. the rest of territories will be random deployment.

Oneyed

remember that it has to be coded without positions!

ian.

So are we now removing the start positions?

cairnswk wrote:So are we now removing the start positions?

it looks that yes. I forgot that there were discusion about this. sorry guys

Oneyed

Hello cairns,

nobodies has posted why it has been taking so long for this xml...please read here. viewtopic.php?p=4061241#

The change is extremely small, yet extremely important. All you need to do is all <required> tags with the smallest required amount on each of your collections.

After you do that, I'll be happy to finally stamp this. Also, I see some xml chat up top - if you could please include the post with the final xml what has changed, I'd be very appreciative.

Gilligan wrote:Hello cairns,

nobodies has posted why it has been taking so long for this xml...please read here. viewtopic.php?p=4061241#

The change is extremely small, yet extremely important. All you need to do is all <required> tags with the smallest required amount on each of your collections.

After you do that, I'll be happy to finally stamp this. Also, I see some xml chat up top - if you could please include the post with the final xml what has changed, I'd be very appreciative.

Gilligan.
You may have read my computer has been down, now i am still putting it together with software, and my priority is exactly my computer before CC
As well uni is calling.
Please feel free to do what you wish with this xml.
Sorry Oneyed.

cairnswk wrote:Sorry Oneyed.

things happend. thanks for your help and get new PC

Oneyed