Conquer Club

Armandolas wrote:In the past i had criticizef some of your maps, mostly because of graphics....but this one just looks...Beautifull
Congratz

Thanks you.

ManBungalow wrote:To clarify, this is what I'm suggesting with the bridges:



You're currently using bridge model A.

I recommend bridge model B. It's the same, but with soft ends.

At the moment, they stand out from the rest of the map because they look like blocks of whatever just slapped on top of the image.

ManB, I know what you wanted. But I am happy with the way they are. As I said, I was in two minds whether to do your way or not. I like your way but they are too realistic for the map so I deferred judgement to the higher ups (players). If they say to change it, then I will.

tbh I like ManB suggestion athough I don't see it as a mandatory thing.

If there's nothing more to add i think we're ready to play...no?

Nobodies

Will make the change this weekend. I take it Monday is the earliest we can play so expect the files by then.

Why wait.
Here you go.
Vertex.


Austrum.

there are still visible rivers under some bridges...

Oneyed

Oneyed wrote:there are still visible rivers under some bridges...

Oneyed

Where? I can't see them...

thenobodies80 wrote:
Where? I can't see them...

in Vertex map: from Gerros to Cephissus and from Cephissus to Hyparis.
in Austrum map: from Ionia to Ridun.

Oneyed

That is the grain, not the river. All bridges have a 100% opacity dark grey backing behind the texture layer.

it looks visually appealing. count be a real boon for FS players on manual though, win with round 3 (due to round 1 being placement)
looks like a low recovery map if you start the first turn with bonussess due to 4+ in one region.....mmm
what eslse do you want to have looked at?

Beta - Quenching

---The development periods have concluded for the Austrum and Vertex Maps. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand these maps with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that these maps are now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the maps will be put into Full Play (barring any Admins or Foundry Foreman vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:

1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
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thenobodies80

Congrats koontz; your best-looking maps to date.

Congrats koontz!

Nice - although do you really want to give +10 bonus for the full island on the right in Austrum, and nothing for connected regions in the centre?

Might need to add/remove some neutrals on Austrum - 12 starting territs in 1v1 isn't great

DJ Teflon wrote:Nice - although do you really want to give +10 bonus for the full island on the right in Austrum, and nothing for connected regions in the centre?

Connected regions in the centre do give a bonus. They need to be in the same regions though. Look at the names and glows.

Gilligan wrote:Might need to add/remove some neutrals on Austrum - 12 starting territs in 1v1 isn't great

Will sort that today. That is bad, I had it at 13.

EDIT: Made Icaria a neutral 3.

Quick point on Austrum, once I figured out that it was not the last map I played (Vertex), I had a slight amount of trouble finding out what the exploratorum were (it might be that it was speed 1min. game). But perhaps it might be possible to make the ships in the legend a little bolder? They just looked like background decoration to me, but the whole thing could have been because I was confused about the map and then the time.

puppydog85 wrote:Quick point on Austrum, once I figured out that it was not the last map I played (Vertex), I had a slight amount of trouble finding out what the exploratorum were (it might be that it was speed 1min. game). But perhaps it might be possible to make the ships in the legend a little bolder? They just looked like background decoration to me, but the whole thing could have been because I was confused about the map and then the time.

This has been brought up before. Will look into it but a new map, 1 minute speed and getting confused with Vertex is probably not the best thing to play. Now try playing both in a 1 minute speed while drinking. Every game you lose, you drink a pint.

Beautiful map koontz. I do have to say though that I find the font you've used for the legend (while quite attractive) is terribly difficult to read. Enough straining and I figured out what it said, but I can guarantee you any players on this site who's native language doesn't use the Roman alphabet will be very hard-pressed to know what the legend says.

perchorin wrote:Beautiful map koontz. I do have to say though that I find the font you've used for the legend (while quite attractive) is terribly difficult to read. Enough straining and I figured out what it said, but I can guarantee you any players on this site who's native language doesn't use the Roman alphabet will be very hard-pressed to know what the legend says.

I also raised a point about the font of the legend about three pages back.

Haven t tried austrum yet but I m playing a few vertex and I like it with its original bonus.

Just want to say koodos on some great maps. Played several games on Vertex, only a couple on Austrum, but I think they are both great!

I would really like to see a third added to the set, and perhaps a supersize maps where they are all linked somehow?

perchorin wrote: I do have to say though that I find the font you've used for the legend (while quite attractive) is terribly difficult to read.

As I said to ManB a few pages back as well, the font fits the map. If it is a choice of another font that is easier to read and lose some of the style, I will choose the font used. It may be hard, but not imposable.

jigger1986 wrote:I would really like to see a third added to the set, and perhaps a supersize maps where they are all linked somehow?

My plan has always been to do the next 2/3 maps running around the equator. I have started on the first one but wanted to see how these a liked first.

betiko wrote:Haven t tried austrum yet but I m playing a few vertex and I like it with its original bonus.

Great to hear. I am getting the same in games.

koontz1973 wrote:

perchorin wrote: I do have to say though that I find the font you've used for the legend (while quite attractive) is terribly difficult to read.

As I said to ManB a few pages back as well, the font fits the map. If it is a choice of another font that is easier to read and lose some of the style, I will choose the font used. It may be hard, but not imposable.

I have to disagree. I asked my wife to have a look. She's Korean but her English ability is quite high and it was impossible for her to read the legend. I realize it's likely a small percentage of CC players who's native language uses a a non-Roman alphabet but it seems to me quite unfair to write a legend on a map that isn't decipherable to all players. How is that particular font so integral to the map anyway?

perchorin wrote:

koontz1973 wrote:

perchorin wrote: I do have to say though that I find the font you've used for the legend (while quite attractive) is terribly difficult to read.

As I said to ManB a few pages back as well, the font fits the map. If it is a choice of another font that is easier to read and lose some of the style, I will choose the font used. It may be hard, but not imposable.

I have to disagree. I asked my wife to have a look. She's Korean but her English ability is quite high and it was impossible for her to read the legend. I realize it's likely a small percentage of CC players who's native language uses a a non-Roman alphabet but it seems to me quite unfair to write a legend on a map that isn't decipherable to all players. How is that particular font so integral to the map anyway?

Can your wife read the legend on the large map?

koontz1973 wrote:

perchorin wrote:

koontz1973 wrote:

perchorin wrote: I do have to say though that I find the font you've used for the legend (while quite attractive) is terribly difficult to read.

As I said to ManB a few pages back as well, the font fits the map. If it is a choice of another font that is easier to read and lose some of the style, I will choose the font used. It may be hard, but not imposable.

I have to disagree. I asked my wife to have a look. She's Korean but her English ability is quite high and it was impossible for her to read the legend. I realize it's likely a small percentage of CC players who's native language uses a a non-Roman alphabet but it seems to me quite unfair to write a legend on a map that isn't decipherable to all players. How is that particular font so integral to the map anyway?

Can your wife read the legend on the large map?

Not well enough to understand what it says. She can make out a few words but not enough of them to put it all together. When I told her the first word in the upper right was "Hold" she thought I was pulling her leg.