Conquer Club

owenshooter wrote:i don't really care about issues that have arisen with the popularity of 1v1 games. this map is clearly meant for larger games, and if you choose to play 1v1, deal with the issues that happen. the only problem that i see often in my team games, is that the plane bonus (multiple at times), is far too easy to land on with only needing 2. bump that up to 3, and the game is more fair. other than that, i love the map... still one of the best on the site!!-0

p.s.-hey, cairns, remember when me and cooper played you and lack on the day it was released, and we were passing armies from the guns to the planes and onto the center island?!! ha!!! that was a GREAT bug that you had to run off and fix, missing turns in the process!!!!

yeti_c wrote:...
Well for 2 player games - as it stands - you cannot create a drop that doesn't give a bonus...
Or do you mean - in the first round - continent bonuses aren't awarded?
In that case :- Poker Club wouldn't work - as that map relies on people holding a bonus straight up.
C.

owenshooter wrote:i don't really care about issues that have arisen with the popularity of 1v1 games. this map is clearly meant for larger games, and if you choose to play 1v1, deal with the issues that happen. the only problem that i see often in my team games, is that the plane bonus (multiple at times), is far too easy to land on with only needing 2. bump that up to 3, and the game is more fair. other than that, i love the map... still one of the best on the site!!-0
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cairnswk wrote:

owenshooter wrote:i don't really care about issues that have arisen with the popularity of 1v1 games. this map is clearly meant for larger games, and if you choose to play 1v1, deal with the issues that happen. the only problem that i see often in my team games, is that the plane bonus (multiple at times), is far too easy to land on with only needing 2. bump that up to 3, and the game is more fair. other than that, i love the map... still one of the best on the site!!-0
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well, now that i look at the map. perhaps the aircraft drop bonus and all others would be solved if i increased the bonuses to:
Until group taken, within any group
+3 any 4 aircraft
+4 any 5 aircraft

Would that eliminate some of the bonus issues with all games

lt_oddball wrote:This thing with the first of 2 players having a huge edge over the other is a uniform problem with large maps with multiple bonusparches.
It's not something typical for Pearl Harbor.

There is a general solution that works for all these maps (like Waterloo etc..) and it should be simple to implement:
1) DON'T START 2 PLAYER GAMES WITH THESE TYPES OF LARGE MAPS.
(duh- )
That was the simplest solution.

2) Implement many , many, many more neutrals on the map. So each of the 2 players should not start with more starting territories than they would if playing in a 8 player field (something like 9 territories ?).
There, simple and effective !

Blitzaholic wrote:cairns we need to talk about revamping this.
it is a great map but it is unbalanced and not fair for game play.
for starters i suggest the planes or zeros for every 2 you hold you get a bonus of plus 1 not 3

* Until Group taken, within any Group
+ 3 any 4 aircraft + 4 any 5 aircraft

cairnswk wrote:

Blitzaholic wrote:cairns we need to talk about revamping this.
it is a great map but it is unbalanced and not fair for game play.
for starters i suggest the planes or zeros for every 2 you hold you get a bonus of plus 1 not 3

I was thinking:

* Until Group taken, within any Group
+ 3 any 4 aircraft + 4 any 5 aircraft

That will still stop the early bonuses, but still make the planes worthwhile obtaining; and still leave the continent bonus reachable also.

cairnswk wrote:

Blitzaholic wrote:cairns we need to talk about revamping this.
it is a great map but it is unbalanced and not fair for game play.
for starters i suggest the planes or zeros for every 2 you hold you get a bonus of plus 1 not 3

I was thinking:

* Until Group taken, within any Group
+ 3 any 4 aircraft + 4 any 5 aircraft

That will still stop the early bonuses, but still make the planes worthwhile obtaining; and still leave the continent bonus reachable also.

AndyDufresne wrote:Talk about all this long ago---still talk about the above?


--Andy

Blitzaholic wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Talk about all this long ago---still talk about the above?


--Andy

exactly, do NOT let players play on this Map til fixed please

e_i_pi wrote:Hey, I was wondering if you could make it so that owning 1 plane was worth something like, say, +9 deploy. Player who goes first doesn't automatically win as it stands, they only win about 95% of the time

cairnswk wrote:

Blitzaholic wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:Talk about all this long ago---still talk about the above?


--Andy

exactly, do NOT let players play on this Map til fixed please

e_i_pi wrote:Hey, I was wondering if you could make it so that owning 1 plane was worth something like, say, +9 deploy. Player who goes first doesn't automatically win as it stands, they only win about 95% of the time

Guys, i'm ready to make the changes, have been for a while. But i can only move as fast as those in charge will allow.

istanbul39 wrote:love this map but unplayable as is...
when are the changes coming?

MrBenn wrote:I have no problem with updating the map.

Have you created an updated set of images and XML? Once I've seen them, then we can formally announce that the change is coming, and send the links for uploading. Does that sound like a plan?