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Postby Jota on Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:42 pm

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New fountain. Also made the shadows match, I think. I've still got to look at the chemistry art and finish the coordinates, but I thought I'd post this in the meantime so that people can comment on the fountain while I work on those.
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Postby TitusFinn on Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:50 pm

Too bad you can't find a better fountain...I'll see what I can do to help. I like this map, it's clever.
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Postby qeee1 on Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:42 pm

I'm liking the change instead of grey.

I liked the image you had of the horse for the centre... it is CCU after all, a fountain seems a little tame. Plus none of the fountain images so far have looked that good.

I think the books on the left look slightly off... perhaps a little oversized, or perhaps it's just that that image is a little too familiar to me. Definately something odd though.
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Postby Jota on Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:00 pm

[url=http://grunk.org/risk/ccu15b-large.gif]Image
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And here's one with the numbers on it. I've blended the fountain a bit better now. Is it really that bad? If so, I guess this just proves I shouldn't try to draw...

qeee: I liked the horseman as well, but Andy was right about the perspective. If you can find a statue of a mounted soldier seen from overhead that looks like it would work well, I'll be happy to give it a try.
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Postby Jota on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:01 pm

OK, forget the fountain: a cannon is both military and recognizable from the top!

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So between the cannon and the numbers, how are we doing?
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Postby Augusta on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:06 pm

Jota wrote:[url=http://grunk.org/risk/ccu15b-large.gif]Image
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And here's one with the numbers on it. I've blended the fountain a bit better now. Is it really that bad? If so, I guess this just proves I shouldn't try to draw...

qeee: I liked the horseman as well, but Andy was right about the perspective. If you can find a statue of a mounted soldier seen from overhead that looks like it would work well, I'll be happy to give it a try.


about the quad - I think it should have some patterns or something - like the footpaths have. As of now its looking very "flat and grey" and its the very first thing that meets your eye.

I like the idea of this map - but since its called Conquer Club University... couldn't there also be a "game section" - like "strategy", "tactics", "teamplay", "map design" etc... something typical for CC. Make it a little more CC and a little less "real world".

Just some thoughts though...
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Postby spiesr on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:19 pm

Augusta wrote:I like the idea of this map - but since its called Conquer Club University... couldn't there also be a "game section" - like "strategy", "tactics", "teamplay", "map design" etc... something typical for CC. Make it a little more CC and a little less "real world"


I agree and think all areas should be renamed to a CC theme!
Imagine swiching to football field to to a picture of the classic map!!
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:23 pm

Well lets see...


---Call me a crazy monkey, but I liked the fountain! I thought it looked pretty superb. As for the cannon idea, I like it also. But that particular cannon doesn't strike me. It seems to look odd in that place.

---As for more of a nod to CC...it could be a good idea. I like it, though I don't think all areas should be renamed. I think the map would lose something if every area was named in CC style. But perhaps more of nod to CC wouldn't be too hard to do. Though it still might end up being quite a bit more work time wise.


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Postby Jota on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:33 pm

Anyone want to vote on the cannon versus the fountain? I could try to draw a cannon myself, but that seems unlikely to be especially successful.

As for renaming things... well, the biggest problem is that (at this stage) it'd mean losing some of the existing country names, and I kinda like most of the ones that are there. And really, don't all of these things figure into warfare? Building tanks in the Engineering department, making black powder in Chemistry, reading De Bello Gallico in Classics, and of course there's Cartography...
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Postby Augusta on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:34 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Well lets see...


---Call me a crazy monkey, but I liked the fountain! I thought it looked pretty superb. As for the cannon idea, I like it also. But that particular cannon doesn't strike me. It seems to look odd in that place.

---As for more of a nod to CC...it could be a good idea. I like it, though I don't think all areas should be renamed. I think the map would lose something if every area was named in CC style. But perhaps more of nod to CC wouldn't be too hard to do. Though it still might end up being quite a bit more work time wise.


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Just an idea regarding a nod more of CC.

Carparks aren't really that exciting - though its beautifully done Jota on this map.
So maybe that could instead be renamed "Gamings Skills" and transformed from tarmac to house?
Lets say with 3 or 4 "countries" named (again - just some ideas)
Strategy
Tactics
Team Skills
War Analysis... or something
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Postby Augusta on Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:40 pm

Jota wrote:Anyone want to vote on the cannon versus the fountain? I could try to draw a cannon myself, but that seems unlikely to be especially successful.

As for renaming things... well, the biggest problem is that (at this stage) it'd mean losing some of the existing country names, and I kinda like most of the ones that are there. And really, don't all of these things figure into warfare? Building tanks in the Engineering department, making black powder in Chemistry, reading De Bello Gallico in Classics, and of course there's Cartography...


fountain gets my vote - with the grey getting some pattern/structure or whatever like the footpaths - not flat and grey

and yes - they do Jota - just thought it would be a little more CC thats all
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Postby Jota on Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:00 pm

If I made the Quad match the grassy background, would people confuse it with Athletics?
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:37 pm

Perhaps not if you used a different green, and added various walk ways like mentioned. It'd be worth a shot.


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Postby rocksolid on Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:41 am

A hearty vote in favour of the 3/4 fountain over the skyview fountain and over the cannon.
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Postby Jota on Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:44 am

OK, last version for tonight (maybe for good?):

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Revised a few country names, the Quad, and the parking lot. Unless there are significant issues, I'd like to call it finished.

[Edit: Posted before seeing rock's post. I'll keep the polls open for fountains and cannons and such. Switching between those three is a trivial change, so I won't let that keep me from calling it essentially finished if everything else looks good :)]
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Postby rocksolid on Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:56 am

Admit it Jota, you like the top-down fountain only because the eye of providence is the one masonic symbol that would otherwise be missing...meeting on the level and parting on the square, you are.
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Postby Mr. K on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:15 am

First off let me say that I really like how this map has come along. Well done!

I also would like to say I personally like the fountain you've been using.

One suggestion would be to change Liberal Arts to "Social Sciences" because I think that name would describe that group of buildings a lot better.
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Postby qeee1 on Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:18 am

I still like the horse... it's meant to be a map, and maps have pictures representing things that aren't top down views... However, I do think the fountain looks better now that the Quad has been changed, so I wouldn't mind using the fountain either. The cannon just looks poor.

Like the tank.
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Postby spiesr on Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:46 am

I vote fountian.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:25 pm

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Postby Jota on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:32 pm

Hmm. I think "Social Sciences" sounds too similar to "Science", personally... plus, the Science/Liberal Arts dichotomy is a cliche that I wanted to take advantage of, even if it's not dead-on exact.

It sounds like the current fountain is the most popular, so I'll stick with that. Are there any outstanding issues that I missed or forgot to address?
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Postby Evil Pope on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:32 pm

The fountain looks the best, in my oppinion..
But, whats that thing you've added to the Parking Lot? I'd don't really like it..
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:33 pm

Psst, looks to be a tank. ;)


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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:42 pm

I was going to ask if thats a tank.
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Postby Jota on Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:48 pm

Yup, that's a tank. With inconveniently effective camouflage ;)
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