Teya wrote:DiM wrote:now the way i see the problem, johloh is the official revamper and wm just butted in. but it's now wm's fault since he talked to andy and got his approval.
If you read what rock solid wrote which WM quoted you will see that this is not the case.DiM wrote:tricky situation where i think the blame rests on the shoulders of the mods.
You are very quick to blame anything that goes wrong on the mods DiM
but if you read what RS wrote I think you'll find that if anyone is to blame it is Johloh. RS wasnt happy, Johloh never replied.
When it comes down to it, the final say does really come down to rock solid. If he wants WM to continue instead of Johloh Its not really the foundries place to complain. After all, rock solid can pull the pin on the revamp and not let anyone touch it.
wm carried his talks in private without announcing johloh. that's why i think the mods are to blame. it says in that thread johloh is nominated. it says nothing about wm.
that's the problem here. it was done on assumptions. people assumed johloh abandoned the map when in fact he didn't, johloh assumed he is the revamper when in fact wm was also working.
why i blame the mods? simple it's their job to keep the people involved constantly informed of any changes. johloh should have been announced and contacted again after he did not reply to the first request, wm should have been announced as the second revamper or as the substitute revamper. both these things should have been done by the mods and it's clear it's their fault.
they said the thread with the revamps will be updated constantly and anything else that appears without being there is unofficial. then wm comes with this version and it is official. he asked permission and he was granted so he's done nothing wrong. but i think in the spirit of the revamping thread the foundry should have been announced, johloh should have been announced.