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Postby DiM on Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:14 am

Kaplowitz wrote:So is his map part of your trilogy?


nope. this is a standalone trilogy that has nothing to do with gimil's feudal wars.

PS: i might have to change the title for the trilogy because it seems to cause confusion.
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Postby owenshooter on Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:36 pm

DiM, why don't you name one of the docks after me? that would truly make this map KICK ASS and the best map on the site. it would dust age of merchants, trust me!-0
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Postby gimil on Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:19 pm

My is going through a revamp at the moment. It will be titled feudal was classic.

There maps will have a background story and will develop on the game play of the original idea i developed. Once these two are done me and DiM will work one of the other 2 in the trilogy each.

back on topic. the rivers look MUCH better. to elimate the bevel whoring, use drop shadowing and inner shadowing to create light effects toped up with some dodge and burn.

Get your lights point of origin and work from there
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Postby Unit_2 on Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:51 pm

looks like a part of runescape.
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Postby Pain Killer on Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:52 pm

DiM wrote:as for the countries, what do you mean they are hard to see. i only have borders at the bottom. are those hard to see?


yes, thats do to the hill's effect
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Postby Kaplowitz on Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:27 pm

DiM wrote:
Kaplowitz wrote:So is his map part of your trilogy?


nope. this is a standalone trilogy that has nothing to do with gimil's feudal wars.

PS: i might have to change the title for the trilogy because it seems to cause confusion.


Why dont you call it "Castle Wars" or something or "Reign Of Kings"
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Postby gimil on Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:31 pm

Kaplowitz wrote:
DiM wrote:
Kaplowitz wrote:So is his map part of your trilogy?


nope. this is a standalone trilogy that has nothing to do with gimil's feudal wars.

PS: i might have to change the title for the trilogy because it seems to cause confusion.


Why dont you call it "Castle Wars" or something or "Reign Of Kings"


because that boring and lame. federal give it a good feel
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Postby AfroDwarf on Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:30 pm

gimil wrote:
Kaplowitz wrote:
DiM wrote:
Kaplowitz wrote:So is his map part of your trilogy?


nope. this is a standalone trilogy that has nothing to do with gimil's feudal wars.

PS: i might have to change the title for the trilogy because it seems to cause confusion.


Why dont you call it "Castle Wars" or something or "Reign Of Kings"


because that boring and lame. federal give it a good feel


So call yours Federal Wars and his Feudal Wars, that will eliminate any possibility of confusion, right? :wink:
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Postby gimil on Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:31 pm

feudal war - classic

feudal war - The beginning

How can you have confusion?
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Postby AfroDwarf on Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:35 pm

gimil wrote:because that boring and lame. federal give it a good feel

sorry, guess I didn't make it clear enough :)
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:47 am

owenshooter wrote:DiM, why don't you name one of the docks after me? that would truly make this map KICK ASS and the best map on the site. it would dust age of merchants, trust me!-0


sure, why not? and i'll also make Andy's hill, keyogi's castle, vace cooper river and lackattack mountain :roll:
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:48 am

gimil wrote:My is going through a revamp at the moment. It will be titled feudal was classic.

There maps will have a background story and will develop on the game play of the original idea i developed. Once these two are done me and DiM will work one of the other 2 in the trilogy each.

back on topic. the rivers look MUCH better. to elimate the bevel whoring, use drop shadowing and inner shadowing to create light effects toped up with some dodge and burn.

Get your lights point of origin and work from there


all the lighting in the map has the same source.
i'll tinker with dodge and burn.
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:49 am

Unit_2 wrote:looks like a part of runescape.


is that good or bad? never played runescape :roll:
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:50 am

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DiM wrote:as for the countries, what do you mean they are hard to see. i only have borders at the bottom. are those hard to see?


yes, thats do to the hill's effect


ok got it. the main reason i made them like this is because i don't want the borders to be so eye catching and spoil the landscape. but i'll see what i can do to make them more visible.
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:53 am

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gimil wrote:because that boring and lame. federal give it a good feel

sorry, guess I didn't make it clear enough :)


in time you'll learn that gimil writes all kinds of nonsense. if he says federal he means feudal. if he writes feudral he means feudal, heck if he writes fergrohlingdal he also means feudal. :lol:
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:56 am

i need feedback for the following things.

1. number of terits. as i said in the current state the map would have 130-150 terits. is that ok? do you want less?
2. gameplay i have explained the bonuses in the first post. are they ok?
3. graphics anything.
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:56 am

as for the name of the series i'll have a chat with gimil and we'll decide.
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Postby Telvannia on Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:51 am

right here we go:

Mountains are a too dark green,
The islands at the delta of the river need to be rounded of a bit.
The small islands around the map need to be made to look like they are not just cut out of the land.
your stonehenge should give a bonus, and there should be some rocks lying on the top of the other ones
do you just start with a castle in this version?
Try adding different types of terrain to the map, it covers a large area, judging by the size of the castles, so add some beaches, add some desert, some snow maybe.
add some darker patches of water where it gets deeper, better than that add a bumpmap to the map
add some houses round the castles, there are always a few people living near the castle
the docks, dont look like they are made out of wood, draw them in brown then dodge and bun to make it look like planks
your bottom left castle looks like you have just draw walls on, it looks like there are trees growing inside the castle.
fields of crop should be grown in the territory next to villages, because no one would grow crops and 5 hour walk away
bridges, same as docks
your land is too much of a uniform hight above the see, try adding cliffs to make the land seem higher above the water.
your territories on the bottom island are far to complected, try to simplify them a bit.


That is all from me for now,

But i will be back
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:50 am

Telvannia wrote:right here we go:

Mountains are a too dark green,


will make a lighter shade

The islands at the delta of the river need to be rounded of a bit.


will round

The small islands around the map need to be made to look like they are not just cut out of the land.


will do

your stonehenge should give a bonus, and there should be some rocks lying on the top of the other ones


as i said i'm already thinking of giving it a bonus. something symbolic though. as for the rocks, i'm not sure. remember that it is a "new" stonehenge not an old decripit stonehenge so all the rocks should be in the right place nothing fell apart.


do you just start with a castle in this version?


i'm still pondering on the starting point. one thing i know for sure is that this will be a mission type map. like the 2 other chapters there will be a story and a mission.

Try adding different types of terrain to the map, it covers a large area, judging by the size of the castles, so add some beaches, add some desert, some snow maybe.


i have snow in the mountains. beaches will be added (if i manage to make them look good) as for deserts no. the area even though is large is not that large to cover such a vast geographic area. imagine modern france. with a few castles here and there some villages forests and mountains but no deserts.

add some darker patches of water where it gets deeper, better than that add a bumpmap to the map


you mean in the sea? but i do have darker parts as well as lighter ones. as for the bumpmap, how do i do that?

add some houses round the castles, there are always a few people living near the castle


yes i know but the castles are a terit and it's walls define it's borders. if i add some houses around then the castles terit is no longer clearly defined.

the docks, dont look like they are made out of wood, draw them in brown then dodge and bun to make it look like planks


will do

your bottom left castle looks like you have just draw walls on, it looks like there are trees growing inside the castle.


yep there are trees inside it's court? is that disturbing? they can be removed easily but i don't see the problem.

fields of crop should be grown in the territory next to villages, because no one would grow crops and 5 hour walk away


i know and have thought about it but for gameplay reasons i can't put the crops near villages. this is a case when reality must be bent a little. like the ports on any map that connect only to ports. realistically speaking if you have a boat then you can go to any beach not just to another port. but again gameplay is more important. or the helicopters in Kotm. a helicopter can fly and attack anywhere not just helipads or mountain tops.

bridges, same as docks


will do.

your land is too much of a uniform hight above the see, try adding cliffs to make the land seem higher above the water.


cliifs and beaches will be added.

your territories on the bottom island are far to complected, try to simplify them a bit.


simplify them as in make the borders less wavy?

That is all from me for now,

But i will be back



i hope you will.

i'll do all the modifications tomorrow because i'm leaving for work now.
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Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:46 pm

*gets a headache*
DiM why do all your maps have to be so confusing!@!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby DiM on Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:08 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:*gets a headache*
DiM why do all your maps have to be so confusing!@!!!!!!!!!!!


they aren't confusing. just different. :wink:
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Postby Telvannia on Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:05 am

DiM wrote:
Telvannia wrote:add some darker patches of water where it gets deeper, better than that add a bumpmap to the map


you mean in the sea? but i do have darker parts as well as lighter ones. as for the bumpmap, how do i do that?

I can tell you how to bumpmap on gimp, not on photoshop, though im sure there a way, i will describe how they work then you see what you can find, It is a greyscale images, showing the hight of something, fore example for a mountain you would have a white dot for the peak then have the white blending back into the black to make it seem to have smooth sides.
So in a bumpmap you have pure white as the highest part of the land, and black as the lowest, and the greys in between are the different elevation in between.
In gimp you make your bumpmap then choose filters---->map--->bumpmap
Then choose your settings and it works out the lighting ect for you.

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your territories on the bottom island are far to complected, try to simplify them a bit.


simplify them as in make the borders less wavy?

yeah, right now you seem to have made them as complected as possible :P
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Postby hulmey on Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:27 am

Looks good - i cant see a problem with having a big map. I actually kind of like them!!!!

Whats the problem with having a bigger map. I remember Mibi's was huge and nobody said anything!!?!
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Postby Coleman on Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:37 am

They want maps to be able to display for all users in a way that the entire map can be seen at all times without scrolling all over.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:56 am

DiM wrote:
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DiM why do all your maps have to be so confusing!@!!!!!!!!!!!


they aren't confusing. just different. :wink:


No confusing. I still don't understand age of merchants and that is with the bob greasemonkehy.
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