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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:20 pm

[quote="edbeard"}But, it's your map and if you think it works.[/quote]
Well as i said its only there because it replaced some thing else.
I really can't see why it's such a bug bear at this stage...after all this is only V1 of this idea.
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Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:26 pm

sorry it's just the only thing that stuck out to me. everything else I either think is good or just need more time to stew about.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:48 pm

edbeard wrote:sorry it's just the only thing that stuck out to me. everything else I either think is good or just need more time to stew about.

no worries edbeard :D :D
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:24 pm

hulmey wrote:are some of the countries in the sea meant to look like people??? Just curious!!

hulmey...hi...actually the terts are made from outlines of dead soldiers so that answer is yes.

Ps..would love to see this theme on more of the military back ground side of things!!

Care to elaborate here (very clearly)....i'm open to suggestions at this stage before i take it any further.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:25 pm

snufkin wrote:They do look like drowning people or corpses, donĀ“t they?
spooky :shock:

snufkin...yes this is meant to be a reminder of what war does...so yes it is spooky. :)
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Postby hulmey on Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:10 am

you could make the men in faided military gear ( so it didnt stand out too much)..some clutching helmets etc....

As well allied military gear , also include the japense who suffered greatly as well!!!
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:04 am

hulmey wrote:you could make the men in faided military gear ( so it didnt stand out too much)..some clutching helmets etc....

As well allied military gear , also include the japense who suffered greatly as well!!!


Mmmm, ok i get where you're coming from.
Um, i had thought of that, but decided against it.
I thought it would be too "not politically correct" or too in ones face.
I wanted to make the body shapes into rocks in the river rather then dead corpses. I'd feel uncomfortable if i made a map that deliberately placed en emphasis on fighting over clear dead bodies in military uniforms.
Do u get my dirft.
If this becomes an issue, then I do have an alternative map in mind that is more based on the railway itself.
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:26 am

Well, I don't know if this is an improvement or not.
the effect trying to be achieved is broad-brush niaive artwork on the rocks and river. The river needs more treatment.
But for now, this is version 2 with new font more in the oriental style.

Bonuses are a long way off yet.

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Postby unriggable on Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:00 am

I think you need to finish a map before you start others.
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Postby jasnostj on Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:32 am

Are you people seriously discussing corpses to play on???
Even to a mass murderer like me that sounds sick.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:18 am

Cairnswk, I usually like your ideas, but this one doesn't do anything for me. I think there are better projects you can start up than this.


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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:55 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Cairnswk, I usually like your ideas, but this one doesn't do anything for me. I think there are better projects you can start up than this.
--Andy

Thanks Andy. :)
I dont think the idea of Bridge on the River Kwai is the problem, it's the reminder that what everyone is doing here is actually waging war on each other, and that my idea of reminding people about what war produces i.e. dead bodies is too close to home.
Even I just looked at the artwork i produced ( after a big sleep) and I must say it is a tad real. Still I like the fact that I have achieved this objective.

So rather than destroy a good subject matter, I will rework the map to something that everyone won't be reminded about and they can continue attacking each other.

Bamboo Jack Plan B coming up soon. :D
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:59 am

unriggable wrote:I think you need to finish a map before you start others.


Even when such maps that are started don't produce any comments and people don't bother to go there to comment? I have one map up for comment and nobody has been there to discuss anything on it for over a week now. So why can't i start another map?

unriggable, i could produce several map ideas in the time that it takes this forum to quench one.

and please don't tell me when i should or shouldn't post a map. :wink:
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:01 pm

jasnostj wrote:Are you people seriously discussing corpses to play on???
Even to a mass murderer like me that sounds sick.


Yes it is sick, isn't it? jasnostj. People don't like reminders about what war produces. :)
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Postby hulmey on Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:03 pm

What do you mean it doesnt do anything for you? Elaborate ?

I think its a great ma pand very different to what we have on CC...Its also a close to home remainder about war and the graphics are very nice...Prefer this much more than the sydney map..
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:11 pm

hulmey wrote:What do you mean it doesnt do anything for you? Elaborate ?

I think its a great ma pand very different to what we have on CC...Its also a close to home remainder about war and the graphics are very nice...Prefer this much more than the sydney map..


Hulmey, thanks for your "realist" support. :)
As to the difference between this and Sydney, yes it's very clear, but both are very different styles of artwork.
The bridge will still be there in the alternate version that I produce.
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Postby hulmey on Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:45 pm

ok and the trees to the rgiht , i hope. As this gives it a 3D look :D
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Postby pepperonibread on Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:10 pm

I know this map isn't emphasizing the blood and the death of war, but I still don't see any appeal in conquering neither rocks in a river nor dead bodies.
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:05 am

pepperonibread wrote:I know this map isn't emphasizing the blood and the death of war, but I still don't see any appeal in conquering neither rocks in a river nor dead bodies.

thanks pepperonibread :)
feedback is very helpful, particilarly logical expressions like your own.
Appreciation.
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:38 pm

Well, after much thought and re-design, I have started creating the map below as the new version of Bamboo Jack.

Please, don't go bezerk with comments yet, this is only in its infancy, but it will give you an idea where it is heading, and yes it is still alive.

I will continue to update this image as this new image progresses towards something more substantial. When it is finished to a reasonable stage, I will post a completed version V4.

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Postby hulmey on Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:10 pm

your map is too big!!! Havent you been reading the map guidelines you naughty boy :)
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Postby edbeard on Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:57 pm

maybe you are joking but this map is 800x745

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A large (up to 800px wide), Height must not be any greater than 800px on large maps
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:05 am

hulmey wrote:your map is too big!!! Havent you been reading the map guidelines you naughty boy :)


Oh dear hulmey....everyone is having size issues...they must all feel inadequate! :)

keyogi wrote:Any map in development must stick to the following map size criteria:


You must design two versions of the map:

A small (up to 600px wide), and

A large (up to 800px wide).


Height is flexible, but it is recommended that you do not exceed:

350px on small maps, and

600px on large maps.


Height must not be any greater than:

600px on small maps, and

800px on large maps.


My map hulmey is 800 x 745.

I beleive that falls with the guidelines FOR A LARGE MAP
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:06 am

edbeard wrote:maybe you are joking but this map is 800x745

guidelines

A large (up to 800px wide), Height must not be any greater than 800px on large maps


Thanks edbeard....

the small version will be 630 x 587....this is what i am currently working on. :)
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Postby hulmey on Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:09 am

this is all getting very strange *rubs his head* World 2.1 and this one look the same size on my monitor.

What on earth is going on *rubs head some more*
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