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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:34 pm

Small change to game plan on advice from DiM....bridge will not start as neutral....there will be a bonus for the bridge probably with some other territory.
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Postby tim02 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:38 pm

hey watch your self I'm dutch


Thanks cairns but I would not know what to do
I'm brand new with graphics but I would like to try I would like to be a part of another great cairnswk production
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Postby tim02 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:48 pm

watch yourself onbekende I'm dutch


Cairnswk I would love to help, think is I'm new to computer graphics
if you could help me get started I'd love to be a part in another great cairnswk production
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:50 pm

tim02 wrote:hey watch your self I'm dutch

Yes, we'll leave that one alone thanks! :)

Thanks cairns but I would not know what to do
I'm brand new with graphics but I would like to try I would like to be a part of another great cairnswk production

Sorry for the misunderstanding I think tim02....when i said all the graphics are 'Up for grabs' I meant that they are all going to be altered, and have much work to be done one them. :)
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Postby tim02 on Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:17 pm

i'll try to help wherever I can, so notify me if I can help
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Postby hulmey on Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:05 pm

are some of the countries in the sea meant to look like people??? Just curious!!

Ps..would love to see this theme on more of the military back ground side of things!!
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Postby snufkin on Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:02 pm

They do look like drowning people or corpses, don´t they?

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Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:39 pm

isn't every map's objective to conquer the entire map? I don't see the need to express that here. (I do realize that objectives will be (or maybe are currently?) part of the XML capabilities).
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:55 pm

edbeard wrote:isn't every map's objective to conquer the entire map? I don't see the need to express that here. (I do realize that objectives will be (or maybe are currently?) part of the XML capabilities).

well yes and no edbeard.
apparently on my battle for australia, because of the layout of the neutrals, one can finish a game without taking all the terts.
Also there is a new xml feature which if implemented will require only certain terrritories to be claimed and you've won the map (from my understanding)
I did have conquering the bridge there originally but changed it after this was brought ot my attention, so for now it's conquer the entire map.
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Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:13 pm

well, there can be neutrals in any game honestly. Uneven number of territories divided by players, or a 1v1 game. anytime you eliminate someone with neutrals still around, you win. I just don't see the point of adding that bit of text, when every other map works the same way.

I just think that describing objectives should be left for the maps when there is a unique objective. Like we both said, there is or will be an XML feature for this, so those maps need to detail the objective. This is just like any other map to my understanding, so there is no reason I can see as to why it is needed. But, it's your map and if you think it works.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:20 pm

[quote="edbeard"}But, it's your map and if you think it works.[/quote]
Well as i said its only there because it replaced some thing else.
I really can't see why it's such a bug bear at this stage...after all this is only V1 of this idea.
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Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:26 pm

sorry it's just the only thing that stuck out to me. everything else I either think is good or just need more time to stew about.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:48 pm

edbeard wrote:sorry it's just the only thing that stuck out to me. everything else I either think is good or just need more time to stew about.

no worries edbeard :D :D
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:24 pm

hulmey wrote:are some of the countries in the sea meant to look like people??? Just curious!!

hulmey...hi...actually the terts are made from outlines of dead soldiers so that answer is yes.

Ps..would love to see this theme on more of the military back ground side of things!!

Care to elaborate here (very clearly)....i'm open to suggestions at this stage before i take it any further.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:25 pm

snufkin wrote:They do look like drowning people or corpses, don´t they?
spooky :shock:

snufkin...yes this is meant to be a reminder of what war does...so yes it is spooky. :)
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Postby hulmey on Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:10 am

you could make the men in faided military gear ( so it didnt stand out too much)..some clutching helmets etc....

As well allied military gear , also include the japense who suffered greatly as well!!!
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:04 am

hulmey wrote:you could make the men in faided military gear ( so it didnt stand out too much)..some clutching helmets etc....

As well allied military gear , also include the japense who suffered greatly as well!!!


Mmmm, ok i get where you're coming from.
Um, i had thought of that, but decided against it.
I thought it would be too "not politically correct" or too in ones face.
I wanted to make the body shapes into rocks in the river rather then dead corpses. I'd feel uncomfortable if i made a map that deliberately placed en emphasis on fighting over clear dead bodies in military uniforms.
Do u get my dirft.
If this becomes an issue, then I do have an alternative map in mind that is more based on the railway itself.
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:26 am

Well, I don't know if this is an improvement or not.
the effect trying to be achieved is broad-brush niaive artwork on the rocks and river. The river needs more treatment.
But for now, this is version 2 with new font more in the oriental style.

Bonuses are a long way off yet.

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Postby unriggable on Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:00 am

I think you need to finish a map before you start others.
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Postby jasnostj on Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:32 am

Are you people seriously discussing corpses to play on???
Even to a mass murderer like me that sounds sick.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:18 am

Cairnswk, I usually like your ideas, but this one doesn't do anything for me. I think there are better projects you can start up than this.


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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:55 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Cairnswk, I usually like your ideas, but this one doesn't do anything for me. I think there are better projects you can start up than this.
--Andy

Thanks Andy. :)
I dont think the idea of Bridge on the River Kwai is the problem, it's the reminder that what everyone is doing here is actually waging war on each other, and that my idea of reminding people about what war produces i.e. dead bodies is too close to home.
Even I just looked at the artwork i produced ( after a big sleep) and I must say it is a tad real. Still I like the fact that I have achieved this objective.

So rather than destroy a good subject matter, I will rework the map to something that everyone won't be reminded about and they can continue attacking each other.

Bamboo Jack Plan B coming up soon. :D
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:59 am

unriggable wrote:I think you need to finish a map before you start others.


Even when such maps that are started don't produce any comments and people don't bother to go there to comment? I have one map up for comment and nobody has been there to discuss anything on it for over a week now. So why can't i start another map?

unriggable, i could produce several map ideas in the time that it takes this forum to quench one.

and please don't tell me when i should or shouldn't post a map. :wink:
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:01 pm

jasnostj wrote:Are you people seriously discussing corpses to play on???
Even to a mass murderer like me that sounds sick.


Yes it is sick, isn't it? jasnostj. People don't like reminders about what war produces. :)
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Postby hulmey on Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:03 pm

What do you mean it doesnt do anything for you? Elaborate ?

I think its a great ma pand very different to what we have on CC...Its also a close to home remainder about war and the graphics are very nice...Prefer this much more than the sydney map..
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