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Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:33 am

Well these map is for future,when size rule apply these dimension for small map. Like i say in first page i will continue work and waith when these been posible for play.
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Postby tim02 on Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:10 am

the one thing about having 2 crossings is that one person can have the west front anfd after a couble turns its impossible to break his bonus
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the one thing about having 2 crossings is that one person can have the west front anfd after a couble turns its impossible to break his bonus

you forget that second person can hold East front ,and after couple turns you will have real West-East battle for Central front :wink:
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Postby Qwert on Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:34 pm

new update with"
Front line conections
Fix rivers
Attack arrows(Except Britain-need discusion for decide who option to use,bombardment or normal attack)
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Postby boberz on Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:02 am

is there any historical value in the crossings, (just interested not complaining).

Did you think about having a bonus for whole fronts
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Postby unriggable on Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:35 am

I think you need more interfrontal connections.
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Postby Qwert on Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:06 pm

boberz Posted: 30 Aug 2007 14:02 Post subject:

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is there any historical value in the crossings, (just interested not complaining).

Did you think about having a bonus for whole fronts

The bigest reason is to not ruin value of west and east bonuses,in these way i save value of bonuses(some parts have historical conection)

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I think you need more interfrontal connections.

Why you mean that must have more Conection,i think that these concept of two conection of every fronts,is very interesting and make map more interesting for play.

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I still think you should do something about all that space in russia

I will put enlarge part of Siegfried Defence country,because hes have very small terittory and i think that in these way people can know where to attack better. Are you agree.
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Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:32 pm

New update
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Postby unriggable on Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:06 pm

Still thinking you need more connections between fronts.
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Postby KEYOGI on Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:15 pm

I agree with unriggable. Gameplay on this map at the moment would be horrible. Not that any of it really matters, because until the guidelines are updated to incorporate bigger maps, this map is only a distant dream.
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Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:55 pm

KEYOGI Posted: 31 Aug 2007 22:15 Post subject:

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I agree with unriggable. Gameplay on this map at the moment would be horrible. Not that any of it really matters, because until the guidelines are updated to incorporate bigger maps, this map is only a distant dream.

Well human step on moon,so i belive that one day human will play these map. :wink:


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Still thinking you need more connections between fronts

Well you must agree that is very dificulty to give some opinion of game play now. I belive that playability can judge only in real game,so not me or any body can predict how these will be working in game.
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Postby KEYOGI on Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:18 am

qwert wrote:Well human step on moon,so i belive that one day human will play these map.

Of course, but man can't walk on the moon if he doesn't have a rocket to get there. :wink:

You've produced a nice looking map qwert, it's just I see little value in you continuing to develop it without knowing what the future holds. Is there any chance we will see a WWII Central Front map at any point if you can't continue this map for some time?
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Postby hulmey on Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:18 am

i don think this should be called the Road to Berlin....The single most important European battle which led to the road to Berlin. Do know which battle im talking about?
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Postby Qwert on Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:05 am

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You've produced a nice looking map qwert, it's just I see little value in you continuing to develop it without knowing what the future holds. Is there any chance we will see a WWII Central Front map at any point if you can't continue this map for some time?


You know that i have two map in development,so i will continue with these map,alos i will continue development on these map to.WWII Central Front i dont have in mine plans to create for now.
I have one idea, when these map be finish, is posible to put map(only these dimension) on trial period, to people can play and give hes opinion of these dimension.

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i don think this should be called the Road to Berlin....The single most important European battle which led to the road to Berlin. Do know which battle im talking about?

Well i put these name because present fall of german capital and the end of war.If you have better name please tell me.
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Postby d.gishman on Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:11 am

I also agree that there should be more connections... right now it's too sparse - or else the map will play very linearly with a lot of bottlenecks
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Postby Qwert on Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:32 pm

d.gishman Posted: 01 Sep 2007 15:11 Post subject:

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I also agree that there should be more connections... right now it's too sparse - or else the map will play very linearly with a lot of bottlenecks

Bottlenecks?
Its not easy to create new conection,and not to ruin country balance.
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Postby unriggable on Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:44 pm

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I also agree that there should be more connections... right now it's too sparse - or else the map will play very linearly with a lot of bottlenecks

Bottlenecks?
Its not easy to create new conection,and not to ruin country balance.


You can redo the country's bonus, its not that difficult.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:55 pm

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You can redo the country's bonus, its not that difficult.

Can you give me some conection idea?Look mape carefuly and say where is a best to put conection.
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Postby gimil on Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:08 pm

Bombardment between london and Berlin to represent the blitz and bombing runs on Berlin?

Also that operation whee there was thousands of para troopers send into naziville :wink:

just a couple of possible ideas.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:16 pm

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Bombardment between london and Berlin to represent the blitz and bombing runs on Berlin?

Also that operation whee there was thousands of para troopers send into naziville

just a couple of possible ideas.

You mean instead conection,to put bombardment option for bout side.
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Postby gimil on Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:19 pm

just a couple of ideas a thought to open games play. Im trying to help you keep as real to the history as possible :wink:
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Postby unriggable on Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:34 pm

Hamburg - Berlin
London -> Berlin as previously mentioned
Lvov - Hungarian 3rd
Trieste - Vienna

BTW What s the deal with the Segfried defense in the top right?
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Postby Qwert on Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:26 am

unriggable Posted: 01 Sep 2007 23:34 Post subject:

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Hamburg - Berlin
London -> Berlin as previously mentioned
Lvov - Hungarian 3rd
Trieste - Vienna

BTW What s the deal with the Segfried defense in the top right?

Well i can apply two more conection,one for East and one for west,its look that -Hamburg-Berlin ok,and Lvov-Hungarian ok.I think that if i continue conecting these two front these will not be good for playability.
London-Berlin,What you mean?
I put Sigfried Defence,to people can better se terittory of these country,because these country is very small and maybe some people can not se good these part of map.
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Postby Qwert on Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:55 pm

new improve version of map.
I apply two more conection(I stay Berlin closed from any conection)
Also i put two version of text and with older version you can look what is best for map.(Poland-1 version)(East Germany-2 version)(rest of map-older version)
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Postby Simonov on Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:00 pm

qwert wrote:new improve version of map.
I apply two more conection(I stay Berlin closed from any conection)
Also i put two version of text and with older version you can look what is best for map.(Poland-1 version)(East Germany-2 version)(rest of map-older version)
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oh my! can't wait to try this one. btw qwert it's written belgrade and balkans in english. and polish front. nice partisan caps!

should also put german helmets on polish and final battle front because of correct time line. soviets didn't held that part until the end of war, and east front situation wouldn't be correct then. also could rename final battle with central europe - or central european front , final battle sound somewhat strange. also could change the order of france and britain in legend to align helmets by sort.
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