Rail Europe [Quenched]

[cairnswk]

Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Rail Europe Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

--Andy

Yehhhah!!! Thanks Andy.

woohoo i'm first to congratulate cairns on this one.

Cheers Dim.

YEY!!! I get to use this in an upcoming tournament. Congrats.

Very good Night Strike,...glad to hear you can use it in a tournie.

grtz another rail map. another to the great cairnswk family.

Thanks edbeard...not skyting...this is number....gees i've lost count. So much still to do.

[gimil]

Congratz buddy

[bryguy]

Congratz

[Gilligan]

Congrats

PS I counted 12 maps in the family

[t-o-m]

well done Cairns, glad to see this quenched, you deserve it
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cant wait to play, congrats

[Gilligan]

What happened to the link on the first post?

[cairnswk]

well done Cairns, glad to see this quenched, you deserve it
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cant wait to play, congrats

thanks t-o-m

[cairnswk]

What happened to the link on the first post?

for some reason they don't work in quench.

[mightyredarmy]

when can we play this map?

[cairnswk]

when can we play this map?

not sure when lackattack is going to do another upload...mayb e a couple of weeks...i really don't know....there was only an upload in the last two weeks....so it might be another couple yet.

[barterer2002]

Hope its soon I've already scheduled it for the finals of a tourney so I hope it comes out before we reach the finals.

[bryguy]

congratz!

[Ruben Cassar]

Congratulations cairns. Always happy to see a nice guy like you getting his map quenched!

[cairnswk]

Thanks everyone for your messages of support.

Files for uploading

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... E_V33S.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... E_V33L.jpg

XML (file after yeti...c approved it)
http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_RAIL_EUROPE_080408.xml

[t-o-m]

gdgd hope its up soon

[BENJIKAT IS DEAD]

My apologies for only posting this after quenching, but I didn't fully realise the implication of the "no connection across stations" until I rolled over the map with BOB map inspect. ( I sound like a stuck record in my recent posts - but can we have a playtest area PLEASE )

I think that some of the bonuses are a little off:

- Vilnius in particular is +2 for only 3 territories and just 1 border (don't let the fact it "touches" a number of other lines fool you)- I think +1 would be fairer.
- Baltic is +3 for 3 territories and 2 borders - I say +2
- Iberia is 7 territories and 2 borders, but just +2 - I say +3 would be fairer (Scan rail is also 7 territories and 2 borders and is already +3)
- an argument can also be made to make Ukraine Rail +3 too (6 territories and 2 borders, currently +2)


- all the other bonuses are very very hard to hold (especially those competing for shared territories) - and could be pushed a fair bit higher IMO (but in most games they will only come to play in the late game anyway, where there is either a clear leader or a stalemate).

[fireedud]

One thing I've noticed on this map is that when you start leading the game, the bonuses just keep escalating. I felt I was in an AOR game with the armies raising that fast

[TaCktiX]

This is a small nitpick, but the army count for the top G station of MLO is one pixel too high.

[demonfork]

Paris D does not work with clickable maps. I had to use the drop down menu to attack from that position.

[cairnswk]

Paris D does not work with clickable maps. I had to use the drop down menu to attack from that position.

Demonfork, i guess you have to see whoever looks after the clickable add-on for that one.

[fumandomuerte]

Mmm there are discrepancies between bonuses as BENJIKAT IS DEAD pointed months ago. Baltic express has 3 territories, only 2 of them in the border and it can be attacked only from 2 outside stations. It should give a +1 or +2 bonus, not a +3, that's even more than oceania in classic risk!
The other mentioned case is, again, Rail Iberia. 7 territories, 2 borders, 2 foes... It should give a +3 bonus...
Ukraine Rail +2 bonus is OK, but a +3 bonus could work too. It's hard to conquer a 6 territories bonus to only get a +2.
Vilnius Express: 3 territories, 1 border, 1 foe... That sounds like a +1 bonus to me

[cairnswk]

Mmm there are discrepancies between bonuses as BENJIKAT IS DEAD pointed months ago. Baltic express has 3 territories, only 2 of them in the border and it can be attacked only from 2 outside stations. It should give a +1 or +2 bonus, not a +3, that's even more than oceania in classic risk!
The other mentioned case is, again, Rail Iberia. 7 territories, 2 borders, 2 foes... It should give a +3 bonus...
Ukraine Rail +2 bonus is OK, but a +3 bonus could work too. It's hard to conquer a 6 territories bonus to only get a +2.
Vilnius Express: 3 territories, 1 border, 1 foe... That sounds like a +1 bonus to me

I won't change the bonuses on the say of one or two persons. You know that.
Get other lots of support to have this change and it has a fiar chance of happening.

[fumandomuerte]

I won't change the bonuses on the say of one or two persons. You know that.
Get other lots of support to have this change and it has a fiar chance of happening.

I'll start my campaign then

[abel]

I won't change the bonuses on the say of one or two persons. You know that.
Get other lots of support to have this change and it has a fiar chance of happening.

I'll start my campaign then

I have to agree about the Baltic Express. I sometimes think this game should be called Baltic and Vilnius Express for the WIn. While Baltic Express has been good to me in my games, it all depends on the drop so I wouldn't mind a change..

[Industrial Helix]

I'm in favor of leaving it as it is. I mean, yeah, the bonuses are a tad unfair but that's part of the game.