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Postby cairnswk on Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:34 pm

V2 Update

Bonuses are not yet calculated, so please don't comment on all the 6s.

* I borrowed some elements from the original concept of RAIL USA re the Paris station.
* All stations now have their clocks
* Please read the destructions carefully - different station configurations in this map mean slightly different things in RAIL Europe.
* Back to the that fabulous blue and black background that WM conceived and was a big hit on the Rail USA map
* Found a decent font for the Bonus Board.

First time I have managed a large and small version 2.

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Postby edbeard on Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:44 pm

So, you're saying the difference in attack style from this to USA is that Moscow North must go through Moscow middle in order to get to Moscow south?


You're moving along quite quickly I'd say. Very good. How do the side by side stations do with 3 digit army counts? (might as well get that out of the way sooner rather than later).

I guess the only thing left to do visually is actual rails instead of lines? (what's that slow down? well when you work so quickly we expect results!!!)

I'll wait to think about gameplay until you've put out a map with bonuses.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:52 pm

edbeard wrote:So, you're saying the difference in attack style from this to USA is that Moscow North must go through Moscow middle in order to get to Moscow south?
yes


You're moving along quite quickly I'd say. Very good. How do the side by side stations do with 3 digit army counts? (might as well get that out of the way sooner rather than later).

edbeard. they shouldn't be a problem as these station boxes were lifted straight from the configuration of RAIL USA where that was sorted.

I guess the only thing left to do visually is actual rails instead of lines? (what's that slow down? well when you work so quickly we expect results!!!)
yes...luv the expectations, but the quenching won't be as fast. I have asked WM to supply rail lines and will advise him when I am ready to put them on. I don't want to do that just yet in case I have to modify station positions due to someone being discontent with attack plans.

I'll wait to think about gameplay until you've put out a map with bonuses.

I'll try and work the bonuses shortly in the next day or so.
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Bonuses

Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:24 am

How about these bonuses?

5 Brabant Exp
3 Baltic Exp
5 Nord Exp
2 Vilnius Exp
2 British Rail
3 Trenitalia
8 Orient Exp 1919
8 Sim Orient Exp
7 Ven-Sim Or Exp
5 TGV
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6 Iceberg Exp
8 Paris
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Re: Bonuses

Postby cena-rules on Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:08 am

cairnswk wrote:How about these bonuses?

5 Brabant Exp
3 Baltic Exp
5 Nord Exp
2 Vilnius Exp
2 British Rail
3 Trenitalia
8 Orient Exp 1919
8 Sim Orient Exp
7 Ven-Sim Or Exp
5 TGV
3 Rail Iberia
2 Scandanavian Rail
7 TEE
5 Ukraine Exp
6 Iceberg Exp
8 Paris



seem fine.
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Postby Unit_2 on Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:46 am

i don't realy see a differce in this t othe USA one. i think for you to make this you need to make it look alot differnt... its just way to close to the USA one.
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Postby gimil on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:03 am

Unit_2 wrote:i don't realy see a differce in this t othe USA one. i think for you to make this you need to make it look alot differnt... its just way to close to the USA one.


its has a similar theme while looking very much diffirent.
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Re: Bonuses

Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:31 am

cena-rules wrote:
cairnswk wrote:How about these bonuses?

5 Brabant Exp
3 Baltic Exp
5 Nord Exp
2 Vilnius Exp
2 British Rail
3 Trenitalia
8 Orient Exp 1919
8 Sim Orient Exp
7 Ven-Sim Or Exp
5 TGV
3 Rail Iberia
2 Scandanavian Rail
7 TEE
5 Ukraine Exp
6 Iceberg Exp
8 Paris



seem fine.


Thanks cena-rules :)
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:40 am

Unit_2 wrote:i don't realy see a differce in this t othe USA one. i think for you to make this you need to make it look alot differnt... its just way to close to the USA one.


Thanks for your post Unit_2.
I developed the initial concept for both maps and there are subtle differences in the gameplay. There would be no objection anyway I'm sure if they were both the same as most of the maps in CC are the same gameplay just different geographies.
I can asure you if I have opportunity to do RAIL AUSTRALIA and RAIL ASIA and RAIL AFRICA, there will also be some subtle differences, but I think it is important that having developed a winning formula for RAIL USA in the graphics, we continue that to some extent in these similar themed maps. That is my intention anyway.
And I am sure there will be no objection from the European collegues to have a home-based version of a theme. I don't think the USA holds a monopoly on any theme, do you?
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:41 am

gimil wrote:
Unit_2 wrote:i don't realy see a differce in this t othe USA one. i think for you to make this you need to make it look alot differnt... its just way to close to the USA one.


its has a similar theme while looking very much diffirent.


Thanks gimil...yes it is a similar theme and looks somewhat different.
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Postby cena-rules on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:42 am

cairns this is completley off topic but why dont you turn the banner sig into 4 little hyperlinked pics?
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:51 am

cena-rules wrote:cairns this is completley off topic but why dont you turn the banner sig into 4 little hyperlinked pics?


Marketing....there is nothing better than a picture to advertise. People can see a text link but not use it. If they see a picture they like, they will go in search of it, and perhaps find other interesting things on the way. How many times have you done this in surfing the net. Unfortunately, CC doesn't give a lot of space to do this in one's signature block to make the links also, so i choose to use the pictures, and this also allows people to note there has been changes to the maps as they develop. :)
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Postby yeti_c on Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:11 pm

A sneaky suggestion - but for the clocks - why don't you make them read different times - in accordance with their Time Zones... I guess this suggestion could be made for Rail USA?!

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Postby gimil on Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:12 pm

yeti_c wrote:A sneaky suggestion - but for the clocks - why don't you make them read different times - in accordance with their Time Zones... I guess this suggestion could be made for Rail USA?!

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Im pritty sure it was done with rail USA

But WM done it backwards by accident :lol:
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:24 pm

yeti_c wrote:A sneaky suggestion - but for the clocks - why don't you make them read different times - in accordance with their Time Zones... I guess this suggestion could be made for Rail USA?!

C.


Thanks yeti_c
As most of the timetables are available for MOST of the routes including the first Orient Express, I will be adjusting the clocks to read those times in each city.
It has been done on the USA map already I beleive. :)
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V3 Update

Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:08 pm

Version 3 Update - moving right along now.

* Bonuses added
* Changes to Paris design

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Postby MarVal on Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:52 pm

I like the design, the style and gameplay.

Go for it!! And hopefully it will be soon on the Developmental Atlas.

By the way, Great update and bonuses.

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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:51 pm

MarVal wrote:I like the design, the style and gameplay.

Go for it!! And hopefully it will be soon on the Developmental Atlas.

By the way, Great update and bonuses.

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Thank you MarVal...that's very encouraging. :)
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Postby onbekende on Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:12 pm

I see you got some good bonussen for a quick look, althou 1 thing, you call the railroad of Paris - Brussels - Amsterdam - Hamburg (Copenhagen too?) the "Brabant Express", me being from belgium and thus the neighbourhood know that Brabant is a small region, around Brussels. perhaps another name? Like "Benelux express"?
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:20 pm

onbekende wrote:I see you got some good bonussen for a quick look, althou 1 thing, you call the railroad of Paris - Brussels - Amsterdam - Hamburg (Copenhagen too?) the "Brabant Express", me being from belgium and thus the neighbourhood know that Brabant is a small region, around Brussels. perhaps another name? Like "Benelux express"?


Thanks for that onbekende. I got that name from a railway timetable of a journey that run from Paris to Amsterdam ( I extended it for gameplay to Hamburg), but your suggestion is very good and I will change it to Benelux Express next version.
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Postby unriggable on Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:06 pm

Make the lines bolder!
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:16 pm

unriggable wrote:Make the lines bolder!


WM is doing lines later.
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V4 Update

Postby cairnswk on Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:26 pm

Here is one more service added, thanks to Onbekende for the research.

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Postby edbeard on Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:59 pm

could you add the colours to the Brussels station? It just makes it easier to look at bonuses and such.


One thing I have noticed is that the Copenhagen to Hamburg appears to be the only place where two different coloured rails connect by rail instead of stationwise. It's probably not bad, but just thought I'd point that out to give you some trouble! Well actually wanted to make sure it was on purpose.
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Postby turtle32 on Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:23 am

nice map, very fast pace
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