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Postby gimil on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:00 pm

cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:Cairns forgive my lazyness but have we been over coordinate centering?


Back on page whatever (30)...27 Feb

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 19#1157019

But i will check them again for you. :twisted:


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Postby edbeard on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:04 pm

haven't looked at this map in a while. man I really like those one-way attack lines.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:07 pm

gimil wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:Cairns forgive my lazyness but have we been over coordinate centering?


Back on page whatever (30)...27 Feb

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 19#1157019

But i will check them again for you. :twisted:


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I'm glad i checked gimil, because lanyards xml has errors in the Jota xml checker tool.
1. "nuetral" should be neutral
2. the objective continents probably need to be listed individually.
so i will fix that, and re-post the coordinates checking also.
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Postby lanyards on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:08 pm

cairnswk wrote:I'm glad i checked gimil, because lanyards xml has errors in the Jota xml checker tool.
1. "nuetral" should be neutral
2. the objective continents probably need to be listed individually.
so i will fix that, and re-post the coordinates checking also.
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Postby gimil on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:15 pm

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cairnswk wrote:I'm glad i checked gimil, because lanyards xml has errors in the Jota xml checker tool.
1. "nuetral" should be neutral
2. the objective continents probably need to be listed individually.
so i will fix that, and re-post the coordinates checking also.
:oops: I'm falling apart!

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Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:46 pm

edbeard wrote:haven't looked at this map in a while. man I really like those one-way attack lines.


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Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:58 pm

Alright, well I'm glad to be back in the Foundry Front now! This map is coming along quite nicely--in fact I don't see too many more changes at all.

Well done Cairnswk, and thanks for putting up with the Foundry during this whole shift. :)


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Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:08 pm

So where is the huge post that i placed in here yesterday aftrenoon? With all the fixes on it.
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:31 pm

cairnswk wrote:So where is the huge post that i placed in here yesterday aftrenoon? With all the fixes on it.


My error. :oops: :oops: i made the post on page page 32 in an old answer.
I had made the post, but it didn't show on this last page. Here it is now.

Forza AZ wrote:Hi,

I checked the XML for Battle of Gazala and found these things:

I see continents in the Objective and in some bonusses (Axis Partners, Alied Partners). Is that a new XML feature? So far I haven’t seen continents there. And for Alied Partners there is (4) behind Towns and (2) behind Airfields in the legend, but when you need the continents listed in the XML you need all Towns and Airfields I think. There is also a required tag behind Axis and Alied, but that is the total number of territories/continents listed, so is that needed?

-In the legend it says that tanks start neutral (1). In the XML there is a 2 neutral.
-21st Panzers C has borders in the XML with Indian 3rd and Free French, which are not connected on the map. Also there is a 2 neutral for 21st Panzers C in the XML, but not in the legend.
-21st Panzers E has borders with 150 Inf. In the XML, while it has a border with 21st F, Free French and Indian 3rd on the map
-21st Panzers F has no neutral 2 in the XML
-21st Panzers G has a border with 21st C in the XML, while it borders 150 Inf on the map
-22nd Art. Brigade has bombardments to 21st E and D in the XML, while this should be 21st F and G
-British 7th M Brigade has bombardments to 21st C and D in the XML, while this should be 21st E and F
-Indian 3rd Brigade has bombardments to 21st B, C and G in the XML, while this should be 21st B, D and E


Forza AZ


Gmil, thanks for pushing for a check on this because however it happened lanyards managed to get the old coordinates in his latest xml posting and the centering was all out after i had centered it back on P30. Lucky i keep copies of most everything, but still an hour wasted having to place new coordinates in the latest xml version.

lanyards, please copy the xml link below, and re-name it as your latest version in case you have to do something more on this.

Forza AZ....I checked the xml again and there were a few small errors in it.

here is the results from the latest check 16.3.08 2:37pm my time EST.

Test results:

Warning: Territory Rommel has border 15th Panzers, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Rommel has border 90th Panzers, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 15th Panzers has border 15th Panzers H, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 15th Panzers H has border 15th Panzers I, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 15th Panzers I has border 15th Panzers J, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 15th Panzers J has border 15th Panzers K, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 15th Panzers K has border 15th Panzers L, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 15th Panzers K has border 22nd Art. Brigade, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers has border 90th Panzers M, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers M has border 90th Panzers N, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers N has border 90th Panzers O, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers O has border 90th Panzers P, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers O has border Indian 7/7th Division, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers P has border 90th Panzers Q, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 90th Panzers Q has border Lumsden, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Panzerarmee Africa has border 21st Panzers, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Panzerarmee Africa has border 21st Panzers A, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers has border 21st Panzers C, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers A has border 21st Panzers B, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers B has border Indian 3rd Brigade, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers C has border 21st Panzers D, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers D has border 21st Panzers E, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers E has border 21st Panzers F, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers E has border Indian 3rd Brigade, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers E has border Free French Bir Hakiem, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers F has border 21st Panzers G, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory 21st Panzers G has border 150 Inf. Brigade, but not vice versa

Summary: 0 errors and 27 warnings detected in _gazala_new.xml (14 continents, 70 territories)


I have checked these and these are all the one-way attacks. Note there is no one-way attack from Airfield Rotonda Segnali to the Rommel and Panzerarmee Africa.

Also, the objective is now listed in full territories version and produces no errors in the Jota XML Tool.

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Postby lanyards on Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:54 pm

What is going on with the XML? I don't understand whats happening. My coordinates are correct, I had them all centered, both small and large.

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Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:05 pm

lanyards wrote:What is going on with the XML? I don't understand whats happening. My coordinates are correct, I had them all centered, both small and large.

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i don't know lanyards, but i tried using them and they were shot in several places.

Anyway, the latest post is up...should be all fixed, if you could re-check the xml and post any remarks.
I have laid all the terts out in the objective as it gives an error message in Jota's tool if yo-u don't, i know that's not the most efficient way to do it. Also please note that i had changed the map before you did your latest xml version and made all of tobruk part of the objective.
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Postby lanyards on Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:07 pm

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lanyards wrote:What is going on with the XML? I don't understand whats happening. My coordinates are correct, I had them all centered, both small and large.

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i don't know lanyards, but i tried using them and they were shot in several places.

Anyway, the latest post is up...should be all fixed, if you could re-check the xml and post any remarks.
I have laid all the terts out in the objective as it gives an error message in Jota's tool if yo-u don't, i know that's not the most efficient way to do it. Also please note that i had changed the map before you did your latest xml version and made all of tobruk part of the objective.
Ok, I'll check through it. Did you already fix that stuff, or do I need to?

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Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:10 pm

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lanyards wrote:What is going on with the XML? I don't understand whats happening. My coordinates are correct, I had them all centered, both small and large.

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i don't know lanyards, but i tried using them and they were shot in several places.

Anyway, the latest post is up...should be all fixed, if you could re-check the xml and post any remarks.
I have laid all the terts out in the objective as it gives an error message in Jota's tool if yo-u don't, i know that's not the most efficient way to do it. Also please note that i had changed the map before you did your latest xml version and made all of tobruk part of the objective.
Ok, I'll check through it. Did you already fix that stuff, or do I need to?

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yes i fixed (i hope) all the xml stuff, since you become xml-checker yesterday, it would seem silly for you to check your own stuff.
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Postby lanyards on Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:55 pm

First off, you at the beggining of the XML, you need to change the file type to .jpg.
====================================================================================
The following continents names should be changed:
"Airfields" changed to "All Airfields".
"Towns" changed to "All Towns".
====================================================================================
Since tanks can only attack forward in their lines, Rommel shouldn't be able to attack Airfield Rotonda Segnali, correct?
====================================================================================
Since tanks can only attack forward in their lines, Panzerarmee Africa shouldn't be able to attack Airfield Rotonda Segnali, correct?
====================================================================================
Can 21st Panzers A attack Italian 101st Mot. Division? In the XML, right now they can.
====================================================================================
Can Ritchie's 8th attack 15th Panzers L? In the XML, right now they can.
====================================================================================
There are a few more, but can we get these fixed.


If you want, I can fix these, but can you answer the ones where a question is asked.


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lanyards wrote:First off, you at the beggining of the XML, you need to change the file type to .jpg.
====================================================================================
The following continents names should be changed:
"Airfields" changed to "All Airfields".
"Towns" changed to "All Towns".
====================================================================================
Since tanks can only attack forward in their lines, Rommel shouldn't be able to attack Airfield Rotonda Segnali, correct?
====================================================================================
Since tanks can only attack forward in their lines, Panzerarmee Africa shouldn't be able to attack Airfield Rotonda Segnali, correct?
====================================================================================
Can 21st Panzers A attack Italian 101st Mot. Division? In the XML, right now they can.
====================================================================================
Can Ritchie's 8th attack 15th Panzers L? In the XML, right now they can.
====================================================================================
There are a few more, but can we get these fixed.


If you want, I can fix these, but can you answer the ones where a question is asked.


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please put these all up in one go, thanks, i don't want this to drag on forever. :wink:

i will fix these as i have to change some graphics to coincide with the xml changes.
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Postby Forza AZ on Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:53 am

I checked the XML again and found only this "mistakes":

-continents in Axis Partners and Allied Partners continent. Is that new that there are continents listed inside another continent?
-Alied Partners: In legend there is (4) behind Towns and (2) behind Airfields. In XML all Towns and Airfields are listed (since there is a continent there)
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Postby yeti_c on Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:40 am

(Another comment - I'm assuming you don't want the "Partners" to override their specific sub continents either?)

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lanyards wrote:First off, you at the beggining of the XML, you need to change the file type to .jpg.
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The following continents names should be changed:
"Airfields" changed to "All Airfields".
"Towns" changed to "All Towns".

Fixed.

Since tanks can only attack forward in their lines, Rommel shouldn't be able to attack Airfield Rotonda Segnali, correct?
Since tanks can only attack forward in their lines, Panzerarmee Africa shouldn't be able to attack Airfield Rotonda Segnali, correct?

Tanks attacking forward on their attack lines has been removed.
Since there are tank tracks to indicate their paths, and one-way arrows, in some places tanks can attack backwards also.

Can 21st Panzers A attack Italian 101st Mot. Division? In the XML, right now they can.
this has been changed....-> now one-way attack from italian 101st mot. division to tank A.
Can Ritchie's 8th attack 15th Panzers L? In the XML, right now they can.

yes.
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:50 pm

Forza AZ wrote:I checked the XML again and found only this "mistakes":

-continents in Axis Partners and Allied Partners continent. Is that new that there are continents listed inside another continent?

i guess this is something new. can you check with yeti_c on this please.


-Alied Partners: In legend there is (4) behind Towns and (2) behind Airfields. In XML all Towns and Airfields are listed (since there is a continent there)


yes the main bonus applies to all all the towns (5) and all airfields (4)
but in the allied partners some of those towns and airfields don't apply bacause bir temrad is part of the axis, and so is rotonda airfield.
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Postby lanyards on Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:02 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Forza AZ wrote:I checked the XML again and found only this "mistakes":

-continents in Axis Partners and Allied Partners continent. Is that new that there are continents listed inside another continent?

i guess this is something new. can you check with yeti_c on this please.

Yes, it is a new XML feature. Nested continents.

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Postby yeti_c on Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:01 am

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Forza AZ wrote:I checked the XML again and found only this "mistakes":

-continents in Axis Partners and Allied Partners continent. Is that new that there are continents listed inside another continent?

i guess this is something new. can you check with yeti_c on this please.

Yes, it is a new XML feature. Nested continents.

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Weird - my big post disappeared detailing what was wrong... (and decoding what Forza said)

The Allied Partners use <continent>all Airports & <contintent>all towns - as components - when actually they need to only list the towns that apply.

Also the two partners continents have unnecssary <required> tags.

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Postby cairnswk on Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:24 pm

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cairnswk wrote:
Forza AZ wrote:I checked the XML again and found only this "mistakes":

-continents in Axis Partners and Allied Partners continent. Is that new that there are continents listed inside another continent?

i guess this is something new. can you check with yeti_c on this please.

Yes, it is a new XML feature. Nested continents.

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Weird - my big post disappeared detailing what was wrong... (and decoding what Forza said)

The Allied Partners use <continent>all Airports & <contintent>all towns - as components - when actually they need to only list the towns that apply.

Also the two partners continents have unnecssary <required> tags.

C.


C...i haven't seen a big xml "what was wrong" post from you in this thread.
I've seen Forza AZ's post and that i used in reply.
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Postby yeti_c on Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:53 pm

I did write one... (it wasn't THAT big!!)...

It was above my last post (hence the "one more comment" start to the post)...

Anyways - that post still stands I think?

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Postby cairnswk on Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:18 pm

yeti_c wrote:I did write one... (it wasn't THAT big!!)...

It was above my last post (hence the "one more comment" start to the post)...

Anyways - that post still stands I think?

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Nuh!, didn't see anything after that post.
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