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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:15 pm

[quote="hulmey"]congrats mate, i would like to see you concentrate on a map which is more geared towards graphics rather than interesting gameplay![/quote]
Thanks hulmey...got any examples to throw food in my brain! What you've stated is a bit broad.
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby Natewolfman on Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:57 pm

"Tobruk Trilogy" What is this? do you have 2 other maps sort of linked to this one? (sorry if this was explained earlier lol)
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:47 am

[quote="Natewolfman"]"Tobruk Trilogy" What is this? do you have 2 other maps sort of linked to this one? (sorry if this was explained earlier lol)[/quote]

Yes natewolfman....there will later be another two maps in the trilogy on tobruk....the desert rats, and el amein....they all have to do with the attempted conquering of tobruk by the rommel, the successful conquer of tobruk by rommel and the pushback from el amein by the Allies to re-capture Tobruk.
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby Natewolfman on Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:46 am

[quote="cairnswk"][quote="Natewolfman"]"Tobruk Trilogy" What is this? do you have 2 other maps sort of linked to this one? (sorry if this was explained earlier lol)[/quote]

Yes natewolfman....there will later be another two maps in the trilogy on tobruk....the desert rats, and el amein....they all have to do with the attempted conquering of tobruk by the rommel, the successful conquer of tobruk by rommel and the pushback from el amein by the Allies to re-capture Tobruk.[/quote]
ahh, so they will be basically the same maps, ubt different periods of time? (which would actually make it completely different maps since its all military possition lol) that would be cool, im excited for this one to start to try it out ;) nice map
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:41 am

[quote="Natewolfman"][quote="cairnswk"][quote="Natewolfman"]"Tobruk Trilogy" What is this? do you have 2 other maps sort of linked to this one? (sorry if this was explained earlier lol)[/quote]

Yes natewolfman....there will later be another two maps in the trilogy on tobruk....the desert rats, and el amein....they all have to do with the attempted conquering of tobruk by the rommel, the successful conquer of tobruk by rommel and the pushback from el amein by the Allies to re-capture Tobruk.[/quote]

ahh, so they will be basically the same maps, ubt different periods of time? (which would actually make it completely different maps since its all military possition lol) that would be cool, im excited for this one to start to try it out ;) nice map[/quote]

no....1st battle involves territory west of this gazala map, last battle of el amein involves territory east of this map.
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby BENJIKAT IS DEAD on Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:23 pm

Another wonderful map cairnswk!!!

Found some problems with the XML though:

Many of the 21st Panzers are in the wrong place, or have the wrong names and connections - roll over in BOB and you'll easily see.

This is only a problem for the small map (which I always use - yes even for Waterloo)


EDIT: investigating further, just a few of the small map co-ordinates need swapping around:


F is currently at C
G is at D
C is at E
D is at F
E is at G

small map only
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby JO Dynasty on Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:33 pm

the panzers are not in the right places, or they are labeled wrong....something. kinda confusing.
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:53 am

[quote="BENJIKAT IS DEAD"]Another wonderful map cairnswk!!!

Found some problems with the XML though:

Many of the 21st Panzers are in the wrong place, or have the wrong names and connections - roll over in BOB and you'll easily see.

This is only a problem for the small map (which I always use - yes even for Waterloo)


EDIT: investigating further, just a few of the small map co-ordinates need swapping around:


F is currently at C
G is at D
C is at E
D is at F
E is at G

small map only[/quote]

Benjikat, thanks for that pickup.

I have PMed lackattack the new xml file.
I had originally set the coordinates and the graphics letters were in a different place.
Because this is a time-consuming job opening javascipt and going through each tert, i got lazy and forgot to check them again after swapping the graphic letters. :-(

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/WWII_Gazala_090804.xml
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:35 pm

XML has been fixed and uploaded.
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby BENJIKAT IS DEAD on Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:56 pm

[quote="cairnswk"]XML has been fixed and uploaded.[/quote]

great!!

btw I'm 14-0 and counting already :)
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:40 pm

[quote="BENJIKAT IS DEAD"][quote="cairnswk"]XML has been fixed and uploaded.[/quote]

great!!

btw I'm 14-0 and counting already :)[/quote]

so spread the word.....is it an easy map?

Oh and PM me with your secrets of success please. :-)
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby Suzy1 on Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:42 pm

Another great map by you cairns, I really enjoy your maps!
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:57 pm

Suzy1 wrote:Another great map by you cairns, I really enjoy your maps!

Wow, thanks Suzy1. Can i ask you to spread your joy to playing friends.... :)
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:58 pm

BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:
cairnswk wrote:XML has been fixed and uploaded.


great!!

btw I'm 14-0 and counting already :)


i wonder how many he's up to now???
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Re: WWII: Battle of Gazala [Quenched]

Postby BENJIKAT IS DEAD on Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:49 am

cairnswk wrote:
BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:
cairnswk wrote:XML has been fixed and uploaded.


great!!

btw I'm 14-0 and counting already :)


so spread the word.....is it an easy map?

Oh and PM me with your secrets of success please. :-)


I'm 33-4 now (all foggy 1v1s). Due to the smaller number of starting territories and the difficulty of getting at some of the bonuses, it is much harder winning from second than it is on Waterloo. In particular I am not a fan of thew Free French at all, and think that any single territory bonuses should start neutral. Most the games are won with the +4 for The Cauldron.

You'll be pleased to know that I did win one game from behind by pulling off both Rommel and Panzerarmee on the same turn (remember the fog).

It is not an easy map at all, but mainly because there are a number of different things going on - one-way, bombardments etc.

BTW - there are a couple of quirks of the design that i think could do with attention (I know I didn't say anything earlier, but I couldn't play it earlier - roll on the playtest area):

1) For the first few games I kept on thinking that Italian 1/10 and Italian 2/10 connect - the 2 roads either need to join to GL4 seperately, or you could make them connect in the XML

2) A way of making ther Free French a little easier to hit would be to add a second one-way attack from Panzerarmee B - that way if you get a drop on either branch of the Panzerarmee then you can reach it

Obv this is only based on 1v1 fog, we shall have to wait to see what standard games are like.
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