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Postby mibi on Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:58 am

Rictus wrote:Question - are the city bonuses 'stackable'? If I control two cities and have captured both the Sunni and American neutral areas, do I get both bonuses? I really like the idea of allied cities, but I’m unsure how this is gonna work in a practical sense… Also, I assume these territories are one way? Because otherwise, my opponent takes the city, then I come piling out of the ‘neutral’ flag area to take the city back, which seems at odds with what these areas are meant to represent… or am I missing something? I really really like the idea of aligning the cities, which is why all the questions about the mechanism. Good luck with this one, I hope it goes somewere.


No they are not stackable, there will be a negative bonus for owning two oposing sides, but i still need to work out the logistics of this. and yes the territories are one way, except al-queda which connect out the other way to sunni cities, I guess thats also one way tho.
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Postby Rictus on Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:00 am

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Rictus wrote:Question - are the city bonuses 'stackable'? If I control two cities and have captured both the Sunni and American neutral areas, do I get both bonuses? I really like the idea of allied cities, but I’m unsure how this is gonna work in a practical sense… Also, I assume these territories are one way? Because otherwise, my opponent takes the city, then I come piling out of the ‘neutral’ flag area to take the city back, which seems at odds with what these areas are meant to represent… or am I missing something? I really really like the idea of aligning the cities, which is why all the questions about the mechanism. Good luck with this one, I hope it goes somewere.


No they are not stackable, there will be a negative bonus for owning two oposing sides, but i still need to work out the logistics of this. and yes the territories are one way, except al-queda which connect out the other way to sunni cities, I guess thats also one way tho.


Thanks. That Al Qaeda idea is very interesting - I think you're right and one way will have to be the way to go on those attacks. Still, whilst it fits with the 'reality' of the war (i.e. the idea that any Sunni city could have an al-qaeda attack/takeover) I'm not sure what it does for balance - after all, I'd be inclined to always chose Al- qaeda because of the additional attack options it gives me, as well as a bonus. Anyway, it's a really interesting wrinkle in game play, and I hope it makes it to the final forge in some form..
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Postby t.e.c on Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:15 am

i like the idea mibi, keep up the good work

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Postby s.xkitten on Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:20 am

it looks good...but i won't play it for a long long time.

I like the graphics, and how semi-complicated it looks.
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Postby ps2civxr20 on Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:14 pm

Coleman wrote:
ps2civxr20 wrote:6. no you shouldn't make it playable at all, you should make it so everyone can do anything and it is confusing what you can do.
I found this statement more confusing then the map by far.

Explain please?
it was a joke
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Postby Coleman on Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:42 pm

ps2civxr20 wrote:
Coleman wrote:
ps2civxr20 wrote:6. no you shouldn't make it playable at all, you should make it so everyone can do anything and it is confusing what you can do.
I found this statement more confusing then the map by far.

Explain please?
it was a joke
Ah, no wonder I didn't get it.
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Postby Suzy1 on Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:01 pm

:D
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Re: In response to DIM

Postby s.xkitten on Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:23 pm

Suzy1 wrote:DIM,
I am an American and have not supported the war in Iraq. However I do support our military completely. They were commanded to do a job and have bravely done so. As in all walks of life, some people make the wrong choices and do dishonorable things. Whether your comments are facts or not remains to be seen. You are wrong in every way though, to talk disgracefully about our military as though all are bad. I have 2 nephews who served in Iraq and neither of them enjoyed being there. I would love for you to sit face to face with either of them and hear their side of the story. You might be surprised at the facts you would learn. Our soldiers were rationing food and water because supplies were limited and they not knowing when more would arrive. Many of Our soldiers did without and gave their shares of food and water, to the Iraqi soldiers that surrendered to them. Would you feed the mouth that bites you? DIM? Of course you wouldn't. We know who you are. You are the oppressor that rants from the back of the crowd and would be the first one to hide behind an American soldier should he be there protecting your country and your sorry ass!


Get out of the foundry, and take it the clubhouse. There is a thread there that you may rant on whenever you like.
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Re: In response to DIM

Postby oaktown on Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:27 pm

s.xkitten wrote:Get out of the foundry, and take it the clubhouse. There is a thread there that you may rant on whenever you like.

While I'd rather we just talk shop in the foundry, I think the concerns were appropriate since DiM started it. In his over-generalization and vilification of all Americans DiM showed that he is capable of the same type of thought that drives people to commit war crimes against people they've depersonalized, so I'll give Suzy a break on this one.

The personal/political reactions to this map may never go away. Could be a constant uphill battle. :cry:
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Postby Coleman on Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:31 pm

I feel CC, and this map, are politically neutral.

I'm not worried about people getting offended, I'll leave that to the other moderators. :lol:
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Postby Gustaf Wasa on Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:57 pm

Oh, man.... There are hardly any al-Qaeda members in Iraq. The one camp that existed before the war, which the U.S. used in its propaganda, was in Kurd territory - the Kurds who were U.S. allies.

The group calling itself "al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia" has nothing to do with the real al-Qaeda. It didn't exist before the war and the majority of members are Iraqis. It got some kuddos by the real al-Qaeda in the beginning, but it has since been condemned by al-Qaeda because of its many attacks on civilians.

It is of course still used in the neocon propaganda, and in Bush speeches that say "We are fighting them there so they won't come over here". But including al-Qaeda in the Iraq map is inaccurate, no matter what the propaganda line says.
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Postby yamahafazer on Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:25 am

Ok... I haven't read all of the posts as I don't have time BUT!!! The very 1st thing that I can see that I think should be changed is the fact that you have a continent called "Kurd". If you are planing to split up the continents based on religon like you have with "Sunni" and "Shia" then the "Kurd" continent should realy be "Alevi" as it is very diferent to the other forms of Islam, and almost EVERY Kurd I have EVER met has been Alevi.
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Postby mibi on Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:27 am

Gustaf Wasa wrote:Oh, man.... There are hardly any al-Qaeda members in Iraq. The one camp that existed before the war, which the U.S. used in its propaganda, was in Kurd territory - the Kurds who were U.S. allies.

The group calling itself "al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia" has nothing to do with the real al-Qaeda. It didn't exist before the war and the majority of members are Iraqis. It got some kuddos by the real al-Qaeda in the beginning, but it has since been condemned by al-Qaeda because of its many attacks on civilians.

It is of course still used in the neocon propaganda, and in Bush speeches that say "We are fighting them there so they won't come over here". But including al-Qaeda in the Iraq map is inaccurate, no matter what the propaganda line says.


feel free to edit this neocon propaganda site then,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_Iraq
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Postby mibi on Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:30 am

yamahafazer wrote:Ok... I haven't read all of the posts as I don't have time BUT!!! The very 1st thing that I can see that I think should be changed is the fact that you have a continent called "Kurd". If you are planing to split up the continents based on religon like you have with "Sunni" and "Shia" then the "Kurd" continent should realy be "Alevi" as it is very diferent to the other forms of Islam, and almost EVERY Kurd I have EVER met has been Alevi.


I thought kurds were sunni, I can change kurd to sunni kurd.
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Postby hulmey on Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:53 am

Basarah is British run terroity!!!
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