Dust Bowl [Quenched]

[yeti_c]

Hmm... I was wondering if it would be more fair to start all the dustbowl territ's as a neutral +1. I know during map creation this was discussed about starting neutrals and unlucky drops, but I've played some games where due to a bad starting drop, players have had absolutely no chance of winning. Is this worth revisiting, or letting it stay as luck of the drop?

Let it stay - shit happens.

C.

[Night Strike]

I just had a 1v1 where I dropped with 6 of my 12 territories in the dust. Then I lost all 4 from my deployment on bad dice. There's no chance I can win.

[White Moose]

I just had a 1v1 where I dropped with 6 of my 12 territories in the dust. Then I lost all 4 from my deployment on bad dice. There's no chance I can win.

I had about the same. Dropped 7 in the dust which i lost. I won the game.. but still.

[RjBeals]

I knew this would happen.

Yes Shit Happens - but it may be bad enough where 1 game with an unlucky drop, and the player will not play the map again for fear it will happen again. My vote is to leave it be also I guess, simply because I'm done with the map, and focused on my next project - but if this keeps rising to the top, and the staff agrees, then I'll have no choice but to re-open the map.

[MrBenn]

I just had a thought; could all the dustbowl territories start with 4, so on the first turn they decay to 3 rather than 2?
I'm not sure what I think of that, but it might be a way to mitigate against the drop?

[RjBeals]

I just had a thought; could all the dustbowl territories start with 4, so on the first turn they decay to 3 rather than 2?
I'm not sure what I think of that, but it might be a way to mitigate against the drop?

Yeti, is this possible?

[yeti_c]

I just had a thought; could all the dustbowl territories start with 4, so on the first turn they decay to 3 rather than 2?
I'm not sure what I think of that, but it might be a way to mitigate against the drop?

Yes - with a lot of coding... every single territory would need to be a "<position>" - and you could then set them to 4...

This would have a sideeffect of eliminating the 3rd Neutral player in 1v1 games though.

C.

[MrBenn]

That sounds like a bit too much effort...

Thinking about it, you'd get complaints about people starting with more armies... (ie if you went 1st, all the dust would have 4s on them)

[exclaim]

An excellent map and nice game. I just finished listening to the audio version of the Timothy Egan book, The Worst Hard Time. Very striking story and reflective of the fact that we as humans CAN have a nearly immediate, measurable affect on the environment.

Thanks for your great work here!

[RjBeals]

An excellent map and nice game. I just finished listening to the audio version of the Timothy Egan book, The Worst Hard Time. Very striking story and reflective of the fact that we as humans CAN have a nearly immediate, measurable affect on the environment.

Thanks for your great work here!

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Your Welcome. Inspiration from reading that book is why I created this map. Glad you like it!

[lgoasklucyl]

Hmm... I was wondering if it would be more fair to start all the dustbowl territ's as a neutral +1. I know during map creation this was discussed about starting neutrals and unlucky drops, but I've played some games where due to a bad starting drop, players have had absolutely no chance of winning. Is this worth revisiting, or letting it stay as luck of the drop?

I personally like it as is, and hadn't ever considered the thought of it being an improvement by adding neutrals.

[alstergren]

6266823 - Killed red in this game, cashed, got two bonus troops to Boise City. When I started deploying, I had 2 troops on Boise City. I.e. it appears that the initial -1 effect in the the Dust Bowl kicked in mid-turn. Bug?

[MrBenn]

Game 6266823 - Killed red in this game, cashed, got two bonus troops to Boise City. When I started deploying, I had 2 troops on Boise City. I.e. it appears that the initial -1 effect in the the Dust Bowl kicked in mid-turn. Bug?

There's nothing in the gamelog to indicate any lost troops

[thenobodies80]

6266823 - Killed red in this game, cashed, got two bonus troops to Boise City. When I started deploying, I had 2 troops on Boise City. I.e. it appears that the initial -1 effect in the the Dust Bowl kicked in mid-turn. Bug?

Agree with MrBenn, reading the log, when you cashed you got 2 bonus troops to Oklahoma City, not to Boise city....

2010-01-21 20:14:20 - alstergren eliminated Dirtis Khan from the game
2010-01-21 20:14:29 - alstergren cashed in a group of Oklahoma City, Sterling, and Topeka worth 10 troops
2010-01-21 20:14:29 - alstergren got bonus of 2 troops added to Oklahoma City
2010-01-21 20:14:36 - alstergren deployed 6 troops on Boise City

[alstergren]

6266823 - Killed red in this game, cashed, got two bonus troops to Boise City. When I started deploying, I had 2 troops on Boise City. I.e. it appears that the initial -1 effect in the the Dust Bowl kicked in mid-turn. Bug?

Agree with MrBenn, reading the log, when you cashed you got 2 bonus troops to Oklahoma City, not to Boise city....

2010-01-21 20:14:20 - alstergren eliminated Dirtis Khan from the game
2010-01-21 20:14:29 - alstergren cashed in a group of Oklahoma City, Sterling, and Topeka worth 10 troops
2010-01-21 20:14:29 - alstergren got bonus of 2 troops added to Oklahoma City
2010-01-21 20:14:36 - alstergren deployed 6 troops on Boise City

Oh. I did. Well, in that case, the Boise didn't decrease as I thought. My bad...