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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby benny profane on Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:11 am

laci_mae wrote:did you just say "Duders"? I object.

LMR


it's ok. if you didn't notice, pol poindexter is canadian.
and canadians say "duders" all the time.
being from the south, i understand your confusion.
(i hope no other canadians read this)
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby trekwest on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:15 pm

First class map. Well done. Enjoying it thus far.

My only suggestion is some territory army circles sit on the subway lines, thus making them look
part of the rail. But they are not.

A slight movement to elsewhere in the territory would solve this and avoid confusion.

Thanks,

trekwest ;)
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby Emperor_Metalman on Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:45 am

To get the +10 bonus for Manhattan, do you need to hold the subway stations in Manhattan?
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:46 am

Emperor_Metalman wrote:To get the +10 bonus for Manhattan, do you need to hold the subway stations in Manhattan?


No.

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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby FreeMan10 on Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:07 am

nap & Benny-

Congrats on getting this Quenched! I've been out of the foundry loop for a bit, and just now noticed. :oops:

Just now joining an NYC game and looking forward to it. Great work guys.

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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby t-o-m on Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:46 am

woo quads game - we won benny, ink and i forgot who else!
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby iancanton on Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:31 pm

ues looks like a station, even though it isn't. my defensive strategy for one round was based on forting from ues via midtown station (my opponent held midtown territory) to financial district and i discovered that i couldn't!

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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby snapdoodle on Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:41 pm

sry, we thought the colored border surrounding the army shadow would be enough. Granted it can be confusing at first before you are comfortable with the visual cues.
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby Marcus Oreallyus on Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:01 pm

Just finished the map and here is my take...

Great Map! The trains make it really interesting and you must change your strategy for them, which gives the map a little extra enjoyment over traditional movement!
Territories are well setup, and the map is BIG so it makes for a long, fun game!

Manhattan isn't worth enough points in my opinion... it seems to be much harder to take and defend than Brooklyn, but is only worth 10 vs. 16. Brooklyn is over-valued in my opinion. I know Manhattan is small compared to the others, but it's location makes it a battleground due to the trains and moving from one territory to another. But I'm new, so there might be a good reason for this that I don't understand.

Some of the placeholders are on the train lines, but it wasn't bad enough to cause any errors or mistakes for me.

All in all, I think it was great and so far it's my favorite map!
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby Tisha on Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:21 pm

there is a bad rip off over at http://www.strategygamenetwork.com

ours:
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theirs:
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:26 pm

Is that similar enough to get them to take it down?
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:01 pm

It would be up to the map designers to pursue any infringement of their copyright; it's a blatant rip-off, and a pretty rubbish one at that... If I were Snapdoodle or Benny Profane, I'd be inclined to send some sort of "cease and desist" request to the webiste in question...
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby natty dread on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:04 pm

MrBenn wrote:It would be up to the map designers to pursue any infringement of their copyright;


How so, isn't the copyright of maps given to CC by the contract mapmakers sign?
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby sully800 on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:10 pm

natty_dread wrote:
MrBenn wrote:It would be up to the map designers to pursue any infringement of their copyright;


How so, isn't the copyright of maps given to CC by the contract mapmakers sign?


I believe the contract the cartographer's sign explicitly states that CC can use the map - not that the cartographer no longer has the right to the map.

Heck, it's possible that Snapdoodle or Benny gave them the right to use it as well.
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:12 pm

sully800 wrote:Heck, it's possible that Snapdoodle or Benny gave them the right to use it as well.

No. a) Just no. b) If he/they did give them permission, shittyripoffsite.com would've used their image, not a ripoff.
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby captainwalrus on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:23 pm

are they still active here? Has anyone tried to contact them to let them know?
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:28 pm

captainwalrus wrote:are they still active here? Has anyone tried to contact them to let them know?

I could get contact with them. Do you think it would be worth it for benny or snap to get them to take it down?
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:54 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:are they still active here? Has anyone tried to contact them to let them know?

I could get contact with them. Do you think it would be worth it for benny or snap to get them to take it down?

It's ultimately their decision to make - I don't know if the other site has forums (I'm not registered on there, and don't intend to). If they do, it could be worth advertising CC, as the original source of the NYC map - and of much higher quality to boot; aside from the copyright issues...
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby benny profane on Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:49 pm

Well.
the killing 44 was kind enough to pm me the news. And I'm pretty pissed off. I'm sure snap will be as well when I tell him.
They literally took our map and ran it through a crap machine.
Do snap and I have any recourse other than just contacting the site and telling them to remove the map due to copyright infringement?
I know this has happened to CC mapmakers repeatedly, but I don't have time to search threads for how these things usually turn out. Any direction you great folks can point us in will be greatly appreciated.
And thanks again all, it's really nice to know there are still folks here who care.

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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby Incandenza on Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:53 pm

One person you might want to talk to is RJBeals, another site ripped off his Italy map many moons ago. I dunno how it all played out, but prolly worth dropping the dime.
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:04 pm

Right, Incandenza. I think a couple of other cartographers may have willingly let a few other websites use their image, but indeed a couple of have been "stolen" or "slightly altered" kind of thing.

It may be difficult to do anything if they didn't directly copy and paste your exact image, unfortunately.


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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby RjBeals on Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:24 pm

In the end, I gave up. They stole may italy map, but claimed he just used mine as a reference, and didn't copy anything - that was a joke. He ripped mine off totally. But he wasn't going to take it down. I didn't have the money, time or patience to pursue it, so I just bit my lip and tried to ignore it.

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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:16 pm

Hm, right. In the end, it just shows that Conquer Club has the best maps and the best cartographers around.


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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby mibi on Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:22 pm

Just a heads up. you never want to send a C&D or correspsondance to the actual site own. The SGN admin would just wipe their ass with it. It's always better to send it to the sites webhost, as they are far more likely to force the owner to pull the image, especially if the C&D names the host as well.

SGN's host is http://www.apistechnologies.com

Call them, be forcefull, ask for a supervisor, tell them "I have been advised to take legal action if this issue is not resolved"

206-407-3806 (local)
800-603-7858 (toll free)

p.s. you can get free C&D's on the net, google it, fax it.
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Re: New York City [Quenched]

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:43 pm

Good to know, Mibi.


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