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by **captainwalrus** on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:23 pm

are they still active here? Has anyone tried to contact them to let them know?

by **the.killing.44** on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:28 pm

captainwalrus wrote:are they still active here? Has anyone tried to contact them to let them know?

I could get contact with them. Do you think it would be worth it for benny or snap to get them to take it down?

by **MrBenn** on Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:54 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:are they still active here? Has anyone tried to contact them to let them know?

I could get contact with them. Do you think it would be worth it for benny or snap to get them to take it down?

It's ultimately their decision to make - I don't know if the other site has forums (I'm not registered on there, and don't intend to). If they do, it could be worth advertising CC, as the original source of the NYC map - and of much higher quality to boot; aside from the copyright issues...

by **benny profane** on Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:49 pm

Well.
the killing 44 was kind enough to pm me the news. And I'm pretty pissed off. I'm sure snap will be as well when I tell him.
They literally took our map and ran it through a crap machine.
Do snap and I have any recourse other than just contacting the site and telling them to remove the map due to copyright infringement?
I know this has happened to CC mapmakers repeatedly, but I don't have time to search threads for how these things usually turn out. Any direction you great folks can point us in will be greatly appreciated.
And thanks again all, it's really nice to know there are still folks here who care.

-benny

by **Incandenza** on Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:53 pm

One person you might want to talk to is RJBeals, another site ripped off his Italy map many moons ago. I dunno how it all played out, but prolly worth dropping the dime.

by **AndyDufresne** on Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:04 pm

Right, Incandenza. I think a couple of other cartographers may have willingly let a few other websites use their image, but indeed a couple of have been "stolen" or "slightly altered" kind of thing.

It may be difficult to do anything if they didn't directly copy and paste your exact image, unfortunately.

--Andy

by **RjBeals** on Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:24 pm

In the end, I gave up. They stole may italy map, but claimed he just used mine as a reference, and didn't copy anything - that was a joke. He ripped mine off totally. But he wasn't going to take it down. I didn't have the money, time or patience to pursue it, so I just bit my lip and tried to ignore it.

viewtopic.php?f=127&t=42340&hilit=copyright+italy

by **AndyDufresne** on Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:16 pm

Hm, right. In the end, it just shows that Conquer Club has the best maps and the best cartographers around.

--Andy

by **mibi** on Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:22 pm

Just a heads up. you never want to send a C&D or correspsondance to the actual site own. The SGN admin would just wipe their ass with it. It's always better to send it to the sites webhost, as they are far more likely to force the owner to pull the image, especially if the C&D names the host as well.

SGN's host is http://www.apistechnologies.com

Call them, be forcefull, ask for a supervisor, tell them "I have been advised to take legal action if this issue is not resolved"

206-407-3806 (local)
800-603-7858 (toll free)

p.s. you can get free C&D's on the net, google it, fax it.

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:43 pm

Good to know, Mibi.

--Andy

by **snapdoodle** on Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:55 pm

by **william.paul** on Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:13 am

mibi wrote:Just a heads up. you never want to send a C&D or correspsondance to the actual site own. The SGN admin would just wipe their ass with it. It's always better to send it to the site's webhost, as they are far more likely to force the owner to pull the image, especially if the C&D names the host as well.

SGN's host is http://www.apistechnologies.com

Mibi makes a good point on that.

Also, on a completely unrelated note:

I just joined and love the NYC map. Only thing that could make it more fun to play (IMHO) is to add Hudson County, NJ.