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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:07 pm

you took a great map and made it better well done =D> :mrgreen: :lol: :D
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby edbeard on Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:12 pm

British Isles revamp? check
Land And Sea? almost check
Feudal War revamp? not quite
Feudal War II aka The Feudal Supremacy aka The Dark Feud aka Weekend at Feudal War II aka Feudal War Marshalls aka For a Few Feudals More aka The Colour of Feudal War aka Feudal War 2 1/2 aka 2 Feudal 2 Wars aka Feudal War II: The Wrath of Gimil? still a ways to go
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:57 pm

Round our way the birds are singing...
Round our way the sun shines bright...

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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby The Neon Peon on Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:02 pm

Any map makers have a hint on when these will be updated to the site? (like if lack is on vacation and when he will get back etc.)
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby gimil on Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:05 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:Any map makers have a hint on when these will be updated to the site? (like if lack is on vacation and when he will get back etc.)


I don't know, but even if I did I we like suprises better than telling you guys these things :D
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:57 am

wait, this is quenched? It means we won't have this project to pick on any more. I go away for two weeks and the entire Foundry turns upside down! ;)

Kudos to you gimil for sweating out this 13 month nightmare and making something good out of it! =D>
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby Aradhus on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:08 am

My first time seeing this topic. I wish no offense to be taken by what I say in this post. I appreciate that much hard work and time was poured into revamping this map, and this is only my opinion(albeit completely too late making it pretty pointless, but..)

Comparing the map on page 3 with the flags on each country, etc and the finished product, it seems like this revamping went backwards. From good, unique and beautiful to bland, uninspired and not really much different from the original.

There's no point going into detail, broadly I just feel like this was a wasted opportunity. Of course I appreciate that everyone has different tastes.

By the way, why is oxfordshire shortened to 'Oxon'? where does the N come from?
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:53 am

Aradhus wrote:By the way, why is oxfordshire shortened to 'Oxon'? where does the N come from?

Oxfordshire is abbreviated as Oxon, from the Latinised form Oxonia.
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby lgoasklucyl on Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:53 pm

A gorgeous graphics update of a personal favorite

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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby Nobunaga on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:22 pm

Aradhus wrote:My first time seeing this topic. I wish no offense to be taken by what I say in this post. I appreciate that much hard work and time was poured into revamping this map, and this is only my opinion(albeit completely too late making it pretty pointless, but..)

Comparing the map on page 3 with the flags on each country, etc and the finished product, it seems like this revamping went backwards. From good, unique and beautiful to bland, uninspired and not really much different from the original.

There's no point going into detail, broadly I just feel like this was a wasted opportunity. Of course I appreciate that everyone has different tastes.

By the way, why is oxfordshire shortened to 'Oxon'? where does the N come from?


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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby Thezzaruz on Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:23 am

\:D/ \:D/ Go Go Gimli, well done! \:D/ \:D/




Aradhus wrote:Comparing the map on page 3 with the flags on each country, etc and the finished product, it seems like this revamping went backwards.


While I do agree with you it seems that a very clear majority didn't like the flags. I don't think the end result is bland though.
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:44 am

Aradhus wrote:Comparing the map on page 3 with the flags on each country, etc and the finished product, it seems like this revamping went backwards.
While I do agree with you it seems that a very clear majority didn't like the flags. I don't think the end result is bland though.

It wasn't simply a matter of not liking the flags... England is split up into three bonus regions, and it was difficult to differentiate between them while they were all represented using the same motif... Anyway, that debate was so 2007!
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:19 pm

Bloody hell gimil - I had money on this making it into 2010.

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Postby BrotherWolf on Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:34 am

It wasn't till I played the old map that I realised how inaccurate the old map was. Being British I suppose I'm more aware of the subtle things that are wrong. For instance whilst playing the old version I realised that Hadrians Wall is running the wrong way. Northumberland is actually north of it. Some of the naming is still inaccurate. I love the Hebrides but what is marked on the map is the Western Isles or Outer Hebrides, The Hebrides themselves consist of most of the islands of the West coast of Scotland. No Shetland and Orkney will also bug me but they weren't on the original.

Still, the new map is a vast improvement and at least the county where I live gets a mention.
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby lance kelleher on Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:12 am

the british isles map has changed and my troops have changed with it
i attacked from the north of ireland into scotland and reinforced them back to the north
know there in leinster, the proof is there that there is a fault because it now says that i attacked from leinster and reinforced back to leinster which is not possible
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby DeathsHead on Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:14 am

Hmm, not sure I like this new map, a combination of county names and areas. And I lost an army in Ireland on thye changeover:D
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby JBlombier on Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:14 am

I've had something similar as lance kelleher and Deathshead.

Player X assaulted South Leinster from Northern Ireland and conquered it from Player Y

This is graphically not possible.

But since that attack was made against me, I remember how the troops were placed. Kerry attack Cork, 4v1, lost nothing, advanced nothing, leaving 3 armies on Kerry.
Those 3 armies are now on Northern Ireland.

Conclusion: The map seems to think that Northern Ireland is the former Kerry.
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Apart from that, the map has improved a lot. Good job!
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby ahunda on Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:46 pm

The game-play is messed up:

Game 3987720

I don´t recall the old territory names, but before the change I was holding what is now called Munster. Now I am holding Northern Ireland instead, and that is messing up my entire strategy in the game so far.

I don´t know, if those 2 terrs were simply switched, but it seems there are more problems & errors. I checked the Game log and found at least one attack, that is not possible:

2009-01-19 19:29:33 - tyche73 assaulted North Leinster from Donegal and conquered it from Pedronicus

Those 2 terrs do not border on each other.

It would be nice, if this could be fixed ASAP, preferably before the time for my turn runs out ...
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Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

Postby ahunda on Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:06 pm

Concise description:

The game-play on the new British Isles map is messed up (territories have switched), probably due to errors in the xml.

Specifics:

I do not recall all the former names of the terrs on the old British Isles map. Nor do I recall exactly, who was holding which territories in Game 3987720. But here are some errors, that I spotted immediately:

  • Before the change I was holding what is now called Munster. Now I am holding Northern Ireland instead.
  • There is at least one impossible attack in the Game Log:
    2009-01-19 19:29:33 - tyche73 assaulted North Leinster from Donegal and conquered it from Pedronicus
    Those 2 territories do not border on each other.

This obviously ruins the games, that are in process on the map right now. It would be nice, if this could be fixed ASAP, preferably before the time for my turn runs out ...
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:07 pm

change the names in the xml, that will solve the problem, it is getting confusing though
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Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

Postby MrBenn on Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:37 pm

This is probably due to a change in the order the territories are listed in the new XML...
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Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

Postby killmanic on Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:39 pm

The admins have been made aware of it and will be looking into it
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Re: [Official] British Isles REVAMP [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:46 pm

Hmmm - sounds as though Gimil moved the XML around in ordering - that was a bit of a mistake as now any existing games from the old map will be out of sync - this will settle down as they finish up.

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Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

Postby ahunda on Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:07 pm

Ok. I just checked another British Isles game, where I have been eliminated this round, and I believe I have figured it out now:

The problem, as far as I can tell, concerns 3 territories: Munster (Kerry on the old map), North Ireland (Ulster) & North Leinster (Leinster).

The troops, that should be on Munster, have been switched to North Ireland.
The troops, that should be on North Ireland, have been switched to North Leinster.
The troops, that should be on North Leinster, have been switched to Munster.

I hope, this helps.
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Re: Territories switched on new British Isles map (BUG)

Postby ajr1066 on Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:36 pm

What is Avon ?? was it on the old map, it doesnt exist anymore and the territory it consumes on the map is mostly Somerset. As a previous resident of Somerset, it would be great if this was changed.
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ps I'm sure we'll get used to the new layout, just takes time :D
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