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Postby bryguy on Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:06 pm

how about if u can only attack forward? except on a few places of course, cause then if everybody started near each other then the first person to start might try and take out the opposition
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:51 am

mibi wrote:is there a tutorial?


oh mibi...i'm sorry i forgot all about you....i'll do one up and pm it to so you can understand better LOL :wink:
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:52 am

bryguy wrote:how about if u can only attack forward? except on a few places of course, cause then if everybody started near each other then the first person to start might try and take out the opposition


Bryguy...yes the start is still mixed up but that will need to be the case so that everyone deosn't try to take each other out early in the map.
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Postby bryguy on Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:29 pm

cairnswk wrote:
bryguy wrote:how about if u can only attack forward? except on a few places of course, cause then if everybody started near each other then the first person to start might try and take out the opposition


Bryguy...yes the start is still mixed up but that will need to be the case so that everyone deosn't try to take each other out early in the map.



ok thanks, cause i would hate to start the game and then instantly be killed
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:29 pm

Version 2 Update:

Changes:
1. 8 starting positions more defined with one-ways to the two bridges.
2. Schloss starting to take shape
3. Airport more formulated
3. Roads to airport will be one-way also.
4. Of course, on a snowy Alpine background.


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Postby Night Strike on Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:54 pm

I will admit that it's much improved. I was actually thinking about one ways. Perhaps way up the trail should be an option to choose which way to go. One would take you to the objective while another would take you to the beginning to eliminate the other players.

There definitely needs to be multiple paths to get to the objective because one player could pretty effectively "clog-up" a single path.

As another suggestion (maybe not for this map), the map could be shaped like 8 thoughts with the objective in the middle. Players could start on the outside, but a map of that style would allow for borders to attack each other rather than purely going through neutrals to the objective.
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Postby Coleman on Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:58 pm

I don't have a problem with a map that is effectively objective only.

We added them partially for such a possibility. Or so I believe. The trick is making sure we keep strategy involved. All luck would be terrible.
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Postby RjBeals on Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:00 am

your army circles look too sporadic to me. It kinda makes it look messy.
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:43 am

RjBeals wrote:your army circles look too sporadic to me. It kinda makes it look messy.


Yeh Rj...this will improve next version...that i can promise. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:35 am

Version 3 Update.

OK...some enhancements to the start area...
* army circles less messy for Rj.....
* new cable car armies for the wire
* town area starting to be formulated....feedback required
* legend moving to the top of the map
* some bonuses placed at the foot of the map...feedback required

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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:06 pm

Subject: Title Change

I changed the title of this as you can see. Schloss Adler is the name used in the original version of this story, so simply making it Der Schloss (The Castle) seems appropriate.

Any further ideas would be welcome.
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Postby JerryB on Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:54 pm

mistakes:

Der Schloss - Das Schloss
Der W.C. - Das W.C.
Soldaten Schlafzimmer - Soldatenschlafzimmer
Essen Zimmer - Essenszimmer better Speisezimmer or Speiseraum
Munition Zimmer - better Munitionsraum
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Postby Coleman on Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:58 pm

I think we need more territory division like there is in the bottom right or maybe a dotted line connection in the circles too and from the bottom right to the upper right and in the upper left castle.
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Postby MrBenn on Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:18 pm

Is the cable-car one-way? If not the whole 'track' of cars, then at least the Kontrol rooms/gates could be, to keep some sort of momentum/fluidity.

ie:

Kontrol 1 -> Up Car 1
Up Car 8 -> Kontrol 2
Kontrol 2 -> Kontrol 3
Kontrol 3 -> Down Car 1
Down Car 8 -> Kontrol 4
Kontrol 4 -> Kontrol 1
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:55 am

JerryB wrote:mistakes:

Der Schloss - Das Schloss
Der W.C. - Das W.C.
Soldaten Schlafzimmer - Soldatenschlafzimmer
Essen Zimmer - Essenszimmer better Speisezimmer or Speiseraum
Munition Zimmer - better Munitionsraum


JerryB...thanks for those corrections...i thought they would be needed somehow. Will amend the current version shortly in the map above....please F5 to see the changes.
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:58 am

Coleman wrote:I think we need more territory division like there is in the bottom right or maybe a dotted line connection in the circles too and from the bottom right to the upper right and in the upper left castle.


i wasn't planning on adding any routes to the cablecar, but certainly the castle needs divisions, i just havn't got there yet. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:01 am

MrBenn wrote:Is the cable-car one-way? If not the whole 'track' of cars, then at least the Kontrol rooms/gates could be, to keep some sort of momentum/fluidity.

ie:

Kontrol 1 -> Up Car 1
Up Car 8 -> Kontrol 2
Kontrol 2 -> Kontrol 3
Kontrol 3 -> Down Car 1
Down Car 8 -> Kontrol 4
Kontrol 4 -> Kontrol 1


Yes i can work that fluidity into the map without it affecting the gameplay too much. :)
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:12 am

Version 3
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:51 pm

Version 4 Update.

Changes:
1. Terts defined on the roads to and from the airport
2. Castle more defined and a couple of new terts
3. Legend and title area starting to take form.

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Postby Coleman on Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:56 pm

I still don't understand how the connections work in the Airport area. :(
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:05 pm

Coleman wrote:I still don't understand how the connections work in the Airport area. :(


Coleman...thanks for taking an interest.....both connections are one-way of course, and neither road can attack the other.

when the map starts, some players will want to take the airport (germans) and some will want to take the town. the castle starts entirely neutral (now).

both airport and town mobs have to conquer the castle as well as the mob coming in from the cold.

if the airport starters get the escape aircraft early, they can still be attacked by the incoming mob/s.

Bonuses are yet to allocated of course.
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Postby Coleman on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:28 pm

no... and I hope you forgive me for this, Moron.

Inside the airport area. How do all those circles connect? Not to and from, not anywhere else. Also the 4 circles in Barracks aren't named yet.

I'm just trying to suggest things that could get you closer to being moved. That's what I'm supposed to do.

Believe it or not I actually understand everything else.
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Postby yeti_c on Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:39 pm

Sorry for lack of comments Cairns - I'm loving the idea - and I'm kindof waiting for it to come through a bit more so that I can comment in the future...

Keep up with it...

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Postby cairnswk on Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:46 am

Coleman wrote:no... and I hope you forgive me for this, Moron.

Inside the airport area. How do all those circles connect? Not to and from, not anywhere else. Also the 4 circles in Barracks aren't named yet.

I'm just trying to suggest things that could get you closer to being moved. That's what I'm supposed to do.

Believe it or not I actually understand everything else.


Mmmmm....not sure who the Moron is meant for Coleman. I'd be very upset if it was for me...but i hope I'm reading things incorrectly? :) Perhaps the lesson would be to not use that word at all....unless it is in Flame Wars. I find it very denegrating even if you were referring to yourself.

I have not finished formulating the airport area yet.
To be honest i am still deciding what to put on this map...I'm not sure, so I'm looking for advice and hope some of it is sinking into the map.

But the whole idea of this map is that the cable car is the only way up to the castle.

I am not ready for moving this yet, as it is still not fully formulated.
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:49 am

yeti_c wrote:Sorry for lack of comments Cairns - I'm loving the idea - and I'm kindof waiting for it to come through a bit more so that I can comment in the future...

Keep up with it...

C.


Yeti_C...i look forward to your input once i have some formulation for the airport etc.
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