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Postby Coleman on Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:46 pm

Probably not here, lets discuss bonuses in Main Foundry.
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Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:03 pm

Coleman wrote:Probably not here, lets discuss bonuses in Main Foundry.

Thanks Coleman :)

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Postby Incandenza on Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:48 am

It's a little weird that abstract concepts/events like lie detector and St. Valentine's Day Massacre are lumped in with what appear to be continent bonuses...

Otherwise, this map tremendously interests me. Not to put to fine a point on it, but I think that open-ended maps like these are better than directed-play maps like gazala... but that's just my 0.02$.

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Postby Coleman on Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:49 am

One thing I'd like to point out from playing American Civil War is that continents that are not contiguous (have all territories bordering without other stuff in-between) are incredibly awkward feeling.

I'm not saying they are bad, they just take more getting used to then you might expect.

Saying that, I am not sure how the gangster attacking all gangsters aspect of this map would change or diminish that awkwardness, but it's worth mentioning I think.
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:14 am

Incandenza wrote:It's a little weird that abstract concepts/events like lie detector and St. Valentine's Day Massacre are lumped in with what appear to be continent bonuses...

I put the Lie Detector in to beef up the continent.
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November 10, 1924 - North Side Gang leader Dion "Deanie" O'Banion is killed when three unidentified men enter his flower shop and shoot him several times. This begins a five year gang war between the North Side Gang, under Hymie Weiss, against Al Capone's Chicago Outfit that would end with the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in 1929.

"I chink sey both fit very well." *puffing his big fat Havana*

Otherwise, this map tremendously interests me. Not to put to fine a point on it, but I think that open-ended maps like these are better than directed-play maps like gazala... but that's just my 0.02$.

Gazala needs to have it's place in history, just like this one.
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Postby Incandenza on Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:21 am

Nyah, see, if you don't make this map better, you'll be sleepin with the fishes, see? :lol:
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:21 am

Coleman wrote:One thing I'd like to point out from playing American Civil War is that continents that are not contiguous (have all territories bordering without other stuff in-between) are incredibly awkward feeling.

"U know Mr Coleman, dat seems to be my maps all over, deys all like dat!"

I'm not saying they are bad, they just take more getting used to then you might expect.

"I chuld hope not, I might jus have to get the Fellas to come after you"

Saying that, I am not sure how the gangster attacking all gangsters aspect of this map would change or diminish that awkwardness, but it's worth mentioning I think.

"Mmmm....I'd be careful how you go mentioning tings in deez parts, the Fellas might still get upset if dey knew u was dishing on dem. But then I'm not gonna stop you from having some Free Speech...afterall.....

This is America!"
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:24 am

Incandenza wrote:Nyah, see, if you don't make this map better, you'll be sleepin with the fishes, see? :lol:


That'll be a joke...some people's already got me sleeping with the fishes...with a chunk of cement weighing me down.... :lol:
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Postby Herakilla on Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:23 am

ims shoot down those planes so you can get some boat and i dont give a rip if they were on the map you got it from!
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Postby casper on Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:01 pm

My hometown! Nice. Just a few suggestions. The parks look too aqua. Can you make them greener? :) And the Canadian planes. I see them on the 1931 map you are basing this on, but the planes could never land on the lakeshore like you have them. There was no airport on the lakeshore until Meigs Field opened in 1948 (and later demolished by Mayor Daley in 2003).

Here are some more resources....

http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/maps/c ... 26-T5.html
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory. ... /1768.html
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:23 pm

casper wrote:My hometown! Nice. Just a few suggestions. The parks look too aqua. Can you make them greener? :) And the Canadian planes. I see them on the 1931 map you are basing this on, but the planes could never land on the lakeshore like you have them. There was no airport on the lakeshore until Meigs Field opened in 1948 (and later demolished by Mayor Daley in 2003).

Here are some more resources....

http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/maps/c ... 26-T5.html
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory. ... /1768.html


Thanks Casper....appreciate those links, i had already seen them. :)

I think those Canadian planes might have been planes that dropped the cargo with floats in the Lake, and the cargo was later fished out. so i will add some boats there to make the more logical.

I would be interested to hear more from you re the placement of some of these terts...as you can appreciate i don't know the area myself and am only working from maps, so i hope this is at least roughly in place with appropriate terts. :)
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Postby casper on Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:25 pm

Also the 1931 map is not really geographically accurate at all. Little Italy and Little Sicily are not even close. Little Italy should be where "Mossie" Enright is. And Little Sicily where Deanie O'Bannion is.

Check it out on this map from http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/maps/c ... 26-T5.html

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Little Italy is the circled area to the south and is actually still around.

But maybe geographic correctness doesn't even matter...so I dunno. Just pointing it out. If you need any help or advice just let me know.

Look forward to playing this. :)
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Postby Tieryn on Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:17 am

Question:

Is Mickey Cohen coloured wrong or Grouped wrong in the bonuses?
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:17 am

Tieryn wrote:Question:

Is Mickey Cohen coloured wrong or Grouped wrong in the bonuses?


thanks for dropping in Tieryn.....no just included in the wrong section of bonuses that i changed the other day....thatnks for theat pickup, which i will attention in the next build.
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Postby Fireside Poet on Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:40 am

Dillinger? The Biograph? :)

Avalon Hill came out with a game long ago called Gangsters... here is some info if you want a few more ideas about look and feel:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/1471
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