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Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp] p1/49 **Updated**XML**
Posted:
Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:12 pm
by gimil
blakebowling wrote:gimil wrote:Nice work benny
Another nice classic gameplay map on the way
wait, how did he get a graphics stamp if he doesn't have a Large Image?
BTW: love the map benn
Large isn't part of my criteria for graphics stamp, just small. If you work on a large then I require to see a quick glance at a resized large to determine if the resize will have any major issues.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp, Gr] p1/49 **Updated**XML**
Posted:
Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:19 pm
by MrBenn
Ogrecrusher wrote:Just a Thought, maybe you could make the sea connections from England to France/Spain not start from the same place. It makes the France one less obvious in my eyes. Maybe a Dover-Calais one for the French one and leave the Spain one as is.
Nice idea... I'll have a look at it
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp, Gr] p1/49 **Updated**XML**
Posted:
Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:46 pm
by MrBenn
AndyDufresne wrote:Lets see a large image when you've some time.
OK.... here's the small image:
and here's the large:
- Click image to enlarge.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp, Gr] p1/49 **Updated**XML**
Posted:
Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:14 am
by yeti_c
mac - looks a bit like "imac"!!!
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) [I, Gp, Gr] p1/49 **Updated**XML**
Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:08 pm
by AndyDufresne
---
The Europa Map has reached the
‘Final Forge’ Stage. I've revived this thread from the pits of the Foundry Furnace (okay, maybe not) and have examined the contents. Nearly every major concern has been addressed. If there are any other current concerns, please make your voice heard. If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any objection or protest, the map will be deemed finished with the 'Foundry Brand' of approval and will be submitted for live play. As long as there is still discussion or posts that have yet to be commented on, the map will remain in
Final Forge until said discussion has reached the conclusion that the map has reached its final and polished version.
Post questions and concerns if any.--Andy
Re: Europa (New Europe) p1/49 *Updated*XML* [Final Forge]
Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:40 pm
by RjBeals
Congrats Mr. Benn.. Almost there. This map is sure to be a favorite!
Re: Europa (New Europe) p1/49 *Updated*XML* [Final Forge]
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:51 am
by yeti_c
Congrats Benny - hope to see this one up soon.
RjBeals wrote:Congrats Mr. Benn.. Almost there. This map is sure to be a favorite!
In europe we spell that "Favourite"!!!!!
C.
Re: Europa (New Europe) p1/49 *Updated*XML* [Final Forge]
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:56 am
by MrBenn
I got lost for a while... glad to be in the forge though!
I'll get an update together soon
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:57 am
by MrBenn
Update!- All the abbreviations have been replaced with official 3-letter codes
- Some of the territory names have been moved to make them slightly clearer
- The Greek peninsular has been connected via a land bridge.
- Different coloured army numbers have been put on the map to show how it looks... The blue numbers are nice and clear; the most difficult to see are the yellow-on-yellow, but I wouldn't say it's problematic...
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:02 am
by MrBenn
How should the abbreviated countries by shown in the XML/Game Log?
a) ALB - Albania
b) ALB: Albania
c) Albania (ALB)
d) Albania - ALB
e) Albania ALB
f) something else...
Personally I'm inclined to go with option C...
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:25 am
by Skittles!
I have to agree with the C option
Looking nice, Mr. Benn. :]
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:23 am
by gimil
It would say option C is your best as well.
For lighter continent I would consider using darker army circles. Just so that there is a bit of contrast between those lighter army numbers, Central Europe, Hellenics, and maybe the baltics and benulux.
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:10 am
by RjBeals
isn't this the small map? Did you post the large map somewhere yet?
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:43 pm
by ZeakCytho
Option C gets my vote too.
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:12 pm
by MrBenn
RjBeals wrote:isn't this the small map? Did you post the large map somewhere yet?
It's back a page I think...
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:36 pm
by wcaclimbing
Looking good.
Nice map.
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/50***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:47 pm
by MrBenn
Just a quick bump to get the image on the latest page...
MrBenn wrote:Update!- All the abbreviations have been replaced with official 3-letter codes
- Some of the territory names have been moved to make them slightly clearer
- The Greek peninsular has been connected via a land bridge.
- Different coloured army numbers have been put on the map to show how it looks... The blue numbers are nice and clear; the most difficult to see are the yellow-on-yellow, but I wouldn't say it's problematic...
How should the abbreviated countries by shown in the XML/Game Log?
a) ALB - Albania
b) ALB: Albania
c) Albania (ALB)
d) Albania - ALB
e) Albania ALB
f) something else...
Personally I'm inclined to go with option C...
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:51 pm
by Gilligan
Is there a reason why the names aren't capitalized?
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:08 pm
by ZeakCytho
Gilligan wrote:Is there a reason why the names aren't capitalized?
Because there was a poll and capitalization lost
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:14 pm
by Gilligan
ZeakCytho wrote:Gilligan wrote:Is there a reason why the names aren't capitalized?
Because there was a poll and capitalization lost
Really?
They're proper names, though...
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:17 pm
by ZeakCytho
Gilligan wrote:ZeakCytho wrote:Gilligan wrote:Is there a reason why the names aren't capitalized?
Because there was a poll and capitalization lost
Really?
They're proper names, though...
I know
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:25 pm
by Gilligan
Can I ask why that was even a poll?
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:48 am
by MrBenn
Gilligan wrote:Can I ask why that was even a poll?
It's an aesthetic thing really... I preferred the look and style of lowercase names, and it had the side effect of making the Balkan region less cluttered.
The XML will be in Proper Case though...
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:59 am
by MrBenn
XML Update: v2XML version 1Here's my first ever attempt at some XML...
I haven't put in any coordinates yet, and the large image size is empty; other than that, I'm hoping I've got all the borders and continents right
XML version 2Updated the XML using the "Albania (ALB)" syntax for abbreviated country names.
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
<title>Europa</title>
<smallwidth>630</smallwidth>
<smallheight>500</smallheight>
<largewidth>630</largewidth>
<largeheight>500</largeheight>
<filetype>jpg</filetype>
<continent>
<name>Scandinavia</name>
<bonus>4</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Greenland</territory>
<territory>Iceland</territory>
<territory>Faroe Islands</territory>
<territory>Norway</territory>
<territory>Sweden</territory>
<territory>Finland</territory>
<territory>Denmark</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>the British Isles</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Scotland</territory>
<territory>Northern Ireland</territory>
<territory>Republic of Ireland</territory>
<territory>Wales</territory>
<territory>England</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Western Europe</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Portugal</territory>
<territory>Spain</territory>
<territory>Gibraltar</territory>
<territory>Balearics</territory>
<territory>Andorra</territory>
<territory>France</territory>
<territory>Monaco</territory>
<territory>Corsica</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Benelux</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Belgium</territory>
<territory>Netherlands (NLD)</territory>
<territory>Luxembourg (LUX)</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Central Europe</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Germany</territory>
<territory>Switzerland</territory>
<territory>Liechtenstein (LIE)</territory>
<territory>Austria</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>the Italic States</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<name>Italy</name>
<name>San Marino (SMR)</name>
<name>Vatican City (VAT)</name>
<name>Sardinia</name>
<name>Sicily</name>
<name>Malta</name>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>the Balkan States</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Slovenia (SVN)</territory>
<territory>Croatia</territory>
<territory>Bosnia & Herzegovina (BIH)</territory>
<territory>Serbia</territory>
<territory>Montenegro (MNE)</territory>
<territory>Albania (ALB)</territory>
<territory>Macedonia (MKD)</territory>
<territory>Bulgaria</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>the Hellenics</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Greece</territory>
<territory>Crete</territory>
<territory>Cyprus</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Eastern Europe</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Czech Republic</territory>
<territory>Poland</territory>
<territory>Slovakia (SVK)</territory>
<territory>Hungary</territory>
<territory>Romania</territory>
<territory>Moldova</territory>
<territory>Ukraine</territory>
<territory>Belarus</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>the Baltics</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Estonia</territory>
<territory>Latvia</territory>
<territory>Lithuania</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>Transcontinental Europe</name>
<bonus>4</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Kaliningrad (KGD)</territory>
<territory>Russia</territory>
<territory>Georgia</territory>
<territory>Azerbaijan</territory>
<territory>Armenia</territory>
<territory>Turkey</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>the Motherland</name>
<bonus>1</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Kaliningrad (KGD)</territory>
<territory>Russia</territory>
</components>
</continent>
<continent>
<name>any 5 Mediterranean Islands</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
<components>
<territory>Balearics</territory>
<territory>Corsica</territory>
<territory>Sardinia</territory>
<territory>Sicily</territory>
<territory>Malta</territory>
<territory>Crete</territory>
<territory>Cyprus</territory>
</components>
<required>5</required>
</continent>
<territory>
<name>Greenland</name>
<borders>
<border>Iceland</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Iceland</name>
<borders>
<border>Greenland</border>
<border>Faroe Islands</border>
<border>Norway</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Faroe Islands</name>
<borders>
<border>Iceland</border>
<border>Denmark</border>
<border>Scotland</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Norway</name>
<borders>
<border>Iceland</border>
<border>Sweden</border>
<border>Finland</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Sweden</name>
<borders>
<border>Norway</border>
<border>Finland</border>
<border>Denmark</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Finland</name>
<borders>
<border>Norway</border>
<border>Sweden</border>
<border>Russia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Denmark</name>
<borders>
<border>Faroe Islands</border>
<border>Sweden</border>
<border>Germany</border>
<border></border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Scotland</name>
<borders>
<border>Faroe Islands</border>
<border>Northern Ireland</border>
<border>England</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Northern Ireland</name>
<borders>
<border>Scotland</border>
<border>Republic of Ireland</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Republic of Ireland</name>
<borders>
<border>Northern Ireland</border>
<border>Wales</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Wales</name>
<borders>
<border>Republic of Ireland</border>
<border>England</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>England</name>
<borders>
<border>Scotland</border>
<border>France</border>
<border>Netherlands (NLD)</border>
<border>Spain</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Portugal</name>
<borders>
<border>Spain</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Spain</name>
<borders>
<border>Portugal</border>
<border>Gibraltar</border>
<border>England</border>
<border>Balearics</border>
<border>Andorra</border>
<border>France</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Gibraltar</name>
<borders>
<border>Spain</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Balearics</name>
<borders>
<border>Spain</border>
<border>Sardinia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Andorra</name>
<borders>
<border>Spain</border>
<border>France</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>France</name>
<borders>
<border>Spain</border>
<border>Andorra</border>
<border>England</border>
<border>Belgium</border>
<border>Luxembourg (LUX)</border>
<border>Germany</border>
<border>Switzerland</border>
<border>Italy</border>
<border>Monaco</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Monaco</name>
<borders>
<border>France</border>
<border>Corsica</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Corsica</name>
<borders>
<border>Monaco</border>
<border>Sardinia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Belgium</name>
<borders>
<border>Netherlands (NLD)</border>
<border>Luxembourg (LUX)</border>
<border>France</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Netherlands (NLD)</name>
<borders>
<border>England</border>
<border>Belgium</border>
<border>Germany</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Luxembourg (LUX)</name>
<borders>
<border>Belgium</border>
<border>France</border>
<border>Germany</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Germany</name>
<borders>
<border>Denmark</border>
<border>Belgium</border>
<border>Netherlands (NLD)</border>
<border>Luxembourg (LUX)</border>
<border>France</border>
<border>Switzerland</border>
<border>Austria</border>
<border>Czech Republic</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Switzerland</name>
<borders>
<border>France</border>
<border>Germany</border>
<border>Liechtenstein (LIE)</border>
<border>Austria</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Liechtenstein (LIE)</name>
<borders>
<border>Switzerland</border>
<border>Austria</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Austria</name>
<borders>
<border>Germany</border>
<border>Switzerland</border>
<border>Liechtenstein (LIE)</border>
<border>Slovenia (SVN)</border>
<border>Hungary</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Italy</name>
<borders>
<border>France</border>
<border>Slovenia (SVN)</border>
<border>San Marino (SMR)</border>
<border>Vatican City (VAT)</border>
<border>Sicily</border>
<border>Greece</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>San Marino (SMR)</name>
<borders>
<border>Italy</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Vatican City (VAT)</name>
<borders>
<border>Italy</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Sardinia</name>
<borders>
<border>Balearics</border>
<border>Corsica</border>
<border>Sicily</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Sicily</name>
<borders>
<border>Sardinia</border>
<border>Italy</border>
<border>Malta</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Malta</name>
<borders>
<border>Sicily</border>
<border>Crete</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Slovenia (SVN)</name>
<borders>
<border>Italy</border>
<border>Austria</border>
<border>Hungary</border>
<border>Croatia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Croatia</name>
<borders>
<border>Hungary</border>
<border>Slovenia (SVN)</border>
<border>Bosnia & Herzegovina (BIH)</border>
<border>Serbia</border>
<border>Montenegro (MNE)</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Bosnia & Herzegovina (BIH)</name>
<borders>
<border>Croatia</border>
<border>Serbia</border>
<border>Montenegro (MNE)</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Serbia</name>
<borders>
<border>Croatia</border>
<border>Bosnia & Herzegovina (BIH)</border>
<border>Montenegro (MNE)</border>
<border>Albania (ALB)</border>
<border>Macedonia (MKD)</border>
<border>Bulgaria</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Montenegro (MNE)</name>
<borders>
<border>Croatia</border>
<border>Bosnia & Herzegovina (BIH)</border>
<border>Serbia</border>
<border>Albania (ALB)</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Albania (ALB)</name>
<borders>
<border>Montenegro (MNE)</border>
<border>Serbia</border>
<border>Macedonia (MKD)</border>
<border>Greece</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Macedonia (MKD)</name>
<borders>
<border>Albania (ALB)</border>
<border>Serbia</border>
<border>Bulgaria</border>
<border>Greece</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Bulgaria</name>
<borders>
<border>Serbia</border>
<border>Macedonia (MKD)</border>
<border>Greece</border>
<border>Turkey</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Greece</name>
<borders>
<border>Italy</border>
<border>Albania (ALB)</border>
<border>Macedonia (MKD)</border>
<border>Bulgaria</border>
<border>Crete</border>
<border>Turkey</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Crete</name>
<borders>
<border>Malta</border>
<border>Greece</border>
<border>Cyprus</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Cyprus</name>
<borders>
<border>Crete</border>
<border>Turkey</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Czech Republic</name>
<borders>
<border>Germany</border>
<border>Poland</border>
<border>Slovakia (SVK)</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Poland</name>
<borders>
<border>Czech Republic</border>
<border>Slovakia (SVK)</border>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Belarus</border>
<border>Kaliningrad (KGD)</border>
<border>Lithuania</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Slovakia (SVK)</name>
<borders>
<border>Czech Republic</border>
<border>Poland</border>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Romania</border>
<border>Hungary</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Hungary</name>
<borders>
<border>Austria</border>
<border>Slovenia (SVN)</border>
<border>Croatia</border>
<border>Slovakia (SVK)</border>
<border>Czech Republic</border>
<border>Slovakia (SVK)</border>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Romania</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Romania</name>
<borders>
<border>Hungary</border>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Moldova</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Moldova</name>
<borders>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Romania</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Ukraine</name>
<borders>
<border>Moldova</border>
<border>Romania</border>
<border>Hungary</border>
<border>Slovakia (SVK)</border>
<border>Poland</border>
<border>Belarus</border>
<border>Russia</border>
<border></border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Belarus</name>
<borders>
<border>Poland</border>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Lithuania</border>
<border>Latvia</border>
<border>Russia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Estonia</name>
<borders>
<border>Latvia</border>
<border>Russia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Latvia</name>
<borders>
<border>Estonia</border>
<border>Lithuania</border>
<border>Belarus</border>
<border>Russia</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Lithuania</name>
<borders>
<border>Latvia</border>
<border>Kaliningrad (KGD)</border>
<border>Poland</border>
<border>Belarus</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Kaliningrad (KGD)</name>
<borders>
<border>Poland</border>
<border>Belarus</border>
<border>Lithuania</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Russia</name>
<borders>
<border>Norway</border>
<border>Finland</border>
<border>Estonia</border>
<border>Latvia</border>
<border>Belarus</border>
<border>Ukraine</border>
<border>Georgia</border>
<border>Azerbaijan</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Georgia</name>
<borders>
<border>Russia</border>
<border>Azerbaijan</border>
<border>Armenia</border>
<border>Turkey</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Azerbaijan</name>
<borders>
<border>Russia</border>
<border>Georgia</border>
<border>Armenia</border>
<border>Turkey</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Armenia</name>
<borders>
<border>Georgia</border>
<border>Azerbaijan</border>
<border>Turkey</border>
</borders>
</territory>
<territory>
<name>Turkey</name>
<borders>
<border>Georgia</border>
<border>Armenia</border>
<border>Azerbaijan</border>
<border>Bulgaria</border>
<border>Greece</border>
<border>Cyprus</border>
</borders>
</territory>
</map>
Re: Europa [Final Forge] ***Update on p1/51***
Posted:
Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:35 pm
by Thezzaruz
I agree with option "C", seems to be popular.
But I still think the "transcontinental" +4 bonus should be +3 instead. 5 territs with just 2 borders just seems like such a game winner at +4 to me.
The +3 for "italic states" could be a +2 too. smr and vat is an extra pain to conquer perhaps but "italic states" really is the same as benelux/hellenic/baltics in everything else.