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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby sublimeoneus on Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:04 pm

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby saaimen on Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:30 pm

No... Motherland bonus is +1 for Russia and KGD. But when you have Transcontinental, both countries (and the 1 bonus) are included in the continent. So +1 for Russia and KGD, or +4 for all of the Transcontinental (brown) regions.

EDIT: I was wrong here. Ignore the above.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:06 am

sublimeoneus wrote:So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

Actually, sublimeoneus is right here - the whole of transcontinental will give +5
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:49 am

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:14 am

I just played my first game on this map, got brilliant dice and won... thanks for including the dice hack Benn, great work ;)

One area I misinterpreted was Sicily->Sardinia->Balearics. I thought there was a route from Sicily straight to Balearics. I know now that it isn't, but that's the only misinterpretation I found on the map, everything else was straight forward and easy to understand.

Oh, Croatia to Montenegro is a funny one, but I'm aware of the borders in that stretch of the woods, and it's easy to see on the big map anyhow.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby saaimen on Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:51 am

MrBenn wrote:
sublimeoneus wrote:So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

Actually, sublimeoneus is right here - the whole of transcontinental will give +5

I'm sorry about that, I got it wrong. In fact I didn't know myself, even though I've had that bonus in our doubles game. I hadn't checked the log very well, I thought I got 4 for it anyway. My bad.
BUT even though I know it's my mistake, maybe the line of text about the Transcontinental bonus could be clearer. Now it says 'includes KGD', and that's why I assumed it also included the specific Russia-KGD bonus... Also, the "motherland; +1" is standing there completely apart of other continents. Others might also think the brown continent overrules this small bonus.
Or am I way off, and should I just shut up :D?
e_i_pi wrote:One area I misinterpreted was Sicily->Sardinia->Balearics. I thought there was a route from Sicily straight to Balearics. I know now that it isn't, but that's the only misinterpretation I found on the map, everything else was straight forward and easy to understand.

I did see that Sicily-Balearics is impossible, but somehow I thought Sardinia bordered Monaco :s... When I look again, I can't blame it on the map, but somehow it seemed logical at first.
How about letting all the seapaths arrive at completely different spots? Faroe&Norway->Iceland could be more separated (Faroe seapath to the southern tip of Iceland?), as could Sicily&Balearics->Sardinia (more sideways), Sardinia&Monaco->Corsica (Sardinia->Corsica around the East of Corsica?), and Crete&Turkey->Cyprus (Crete->Cyprus around southern tip of Cyprus?)...
These are mere suggestions to make those a bit clearer, of course. If there's not a lot of problems in beta play, maybe it's not worth the effort :)
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:27 am

Of all the sea route - I really think the only one that is misleading is the sicily -> Balearics...

All the other ones it's quite obvious that the track goes in and out - but with that one - it looks like it might flow past.

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby Thezzaruz on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:36 am

MrBenn wrote:-Text explaining the Kaliningrad (KGD) is part of the transcontinental region has been added to the bottom corner
-An additional label for Italy has been added

IMO both of these are unneccesary and look poor. Good work on the sea routes though.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:50 am

yeti_c wrote:Of all the sea route - I really think the only one that is misleading is the sicily -> Balearics...

All the other ones it's quite obvious that the track goes in and out - but with that one - it looks like it might flow past.

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Yeah this is exactly what got me yeti. There are maps with 3-way borders, like um... Nubia, I think it is with the Well of Rameses. I guess there's others too not that I can think of them off the top of my head.

I think just shifting where one of the sea routes ends will make it clear
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:04 am

I've updated the Balearics-Sardinia route - a refresh will load the updated images ^^
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:13 am

MrBenn wrote:I've updated the Balearics-Sardinia route - a refresh will load the updated images ^^


Works for me.

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:22 am

Looks like I updated it just in time - it's live already!
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby Shatners Bassoon on Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:18 pm

Shatners Bassoon wrote:don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in Game 3510697



actually i was right the first time,the above post still stands.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:02 pm

Shatners Bassoon wrote:
Shatners Bassoon wrote:don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in Game 3510697



actually i was right the first time,the above post still stands.

You might notice a new line of text on the map that says 'transcontinental includes kaliningrad/kgd, an exclave of russia'
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby Shatners Bassoon on Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:54 pm

MrBenn wrote:
Shatners Bassoon wrote:
Shatners Bassoon wrote:don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in Game 3510697



actually i was right the first time,the above post still stands.

You might notice a new line of text on the map that says 'transcontinental includes kaliningrad/kgd, an exclave of russia'

nope,don't see that anywhere i'm afraid.
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