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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby karlutxo on Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:32 am

and what's about canary islands, madeira and azores?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:18 pm

What about them?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby seamusk on Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:35 am

There is more I can say about this map, but after making a move for a buddy in a game on this map, the transcontinental bonus is way too unclear. Just because it says it somewhere doesn't mean it is clear. I think more can and should be done to clear that up. In general I like this map but it is difficult to read.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby saaimen on Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:36 am

seamusk wrote:There is more I can say about this map, but after making a move for a buddy in a game on this map, the transcontinental bonus is way too unclear. Just because it says it somewhere doesn't mean it is clear. I think more can and should be done to clear that up. In general I like this map but it is difficult to read.

Could you clarify 'unclear', and what you'd suggest that could possibly improve it?
My guess is, without trying to offend you, that you're simply angry cause you've made a mistake in not paying enough attention.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby seamusk on Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:43 pm

saaimen wrote:
seamusk wrote:There is more I can say about this map, but after making a move for a buddy in a game on this map, the transcontinental bonus is way too unclear. Just because it says it somewhere doesn't mean it is clear. I think more can and should be done to clear that up. In general I like this map but it is difficult to read.

Could you clarify 'unclear', and what you'd suggest that could possibly improve it?
My guess is, without trying to offend you, that you're simply angry cause you've made a mistake in not paying enough attention.

That is an idiotic response. It wasn't even my game. Other than that, the only reason I commented here is because I think this can be improved (though I'd leave exactly if or how up to the artist). There is no personal "anger" over an unclear map.

Unclear = not readily transparent. It is pretty clear that it is an issue when you go back and read the log and the guy I subbed for had the same confusion as did I. There are many ways to make it more transparent. But I think that if it is made transparent the map will be better off for it. One issue that could contribute is the color itself (brown is not a bold color but blends in a bit). The isolated territory is rather small and it is hard to even see the brown unless you know it is there. The font in the legend is tiny and easily missed. This isn't an issue that breaks the map, but it certainly could be more clear and I think it should be.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby saaimen on Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:07 am

But even though it's brown and not so big... Anyone who really pays attention and looks out over the map to place the continents can see it, right? It's even repeated in the legend inset, and there is an explanatory phrase. It may be small aswell, but honestly, don't people read the whole map before starting to play? I sure do.
I'm sorry if I was wrong saying you posted this because of your own mistake. That may have been idiotic indeed. It's just that a lot of people have come here to complain for exactly that reason, and I still think that's undeserved. But as I said, I didn't mean to offend you.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby Moran555 on Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:38 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=3887594

In this game I recieve 1 troop for holding the "motherland" what is that, I don't see it on the map. I know motherland refers to russia usually but it's not stated on the map.........
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:05 am

Moran555 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=3887594

In this game I recieve 1 troop for holding the "motherland" what is that, I don't see it on the map. I know motherland refers to russia usually but it's not stated on the map.........


Look harder. It's in the legend.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:35 am

ZeakCytho wrote:
Moran555 wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=3887594

In this game I recieve 1 troop for holding the "motherland" what is that, I don't see it on the map. I know motherland refers to russia usually but it's not stated on the map.........


Look harder. It's in the legend.

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby Galkuris on Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:50 pm

Quick question that isn't real clear on the legend.

Say you hold everything related to Italy, and the two "Red Medi" islands. Does this give you the both the Italian and Medi bonuses even though the second +3 is only 2 extra islands?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:12 pm

Galkuris wrote:Quick question that isn't real clear on the legend.

Say you hold everything related to Italy, and the two "Red Medi" islands. Does this give you the both the Italian and Medi bonuses even though the second +3 is only 2 extra islands?

Yes, because the bonuses overlap — the 5 islands can come from any set of bonuses, or as many as you please.

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:17 pm

Just out of curiosity - where did you get 'mkd' from 'Macedonia'?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:22 pm

Gilligan wrote:Just out of curiosity - where did you get 'mkd' from 'Macedonia'?


MKD is the 3 letter ISO code for Macedonia.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:00 am

ZeakCytho wrote:
Gilligan wrote:Just out of curiosity - where did you get 'mkd' from 'Macedonia'?


MKD is the 3 letter ISO code for Macedonia.

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby JJM on Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:06 am

So if Transcontinental has a 4 man bonus and Motherland has 1 woulden't Transcontinental have 5 total.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:21 am

JJM wrote:So if Transcontinental has a 4 man bonus and Motherland has 1 woulden't Transcontinental have 5 total.

Yes, and no. You do get the +5, but it is a result of the +4 from Trans. and +1 from Motherland.
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Europa : bug with Transcontinental reinforcement

Postby olivier101 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:37 am

Hi,

I'm playing in Game 5443226 and I am holding Transcontinental for several rounds (without Kgd) but get no reinforcement (+4) for it. Is there a bug ??
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Re: Europa : bug with Transcontinental reinforcement

Postby iancanton on Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:37 am

there's no bug, olivier. for the benelux bonus, u must hold all pink regions. similarly, for the transcontinental bonus, u must hold all brown regions. kgd is brown, therefore it is part of the transcontinental bonus. good luck!

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby snowocean on Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:17 pm

why can't i assault from vat?

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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:21 pm

vat connects only to Italy, same as smr. vat and smr aren't connected, they reside inside Italy. You can attack back and forth between Italy to both vat and smr, but not between the two.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby snowocean on Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:32 pm

any particular reason why?

is there somewhere on the map where this information is available that i missed?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby RedBaron0 on Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:53 am

Those countries are extremely small, even by European standards. ;) :P MrBenn's aim with the map was to, as accurately as possible, represent the political state of European continent than has ever be depicted before on a CC map.

In doing so there are several territories representing these very small countries as territories. The geographic position of these territories(vat-Vatican City and smr-San Marino) exist within Italy as independent states. Each one is separated by several hundred miles and do not share a border. So MrBenn has put the territories on the map as they exist.

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So playing on the map you can attack to vat to Italy & smr to Italy and visa versa, but smr and vat do not connect because Italy is in between them. There isn't anything you missed, vat and smr are just very small territories within the much larger Italy territory. Just think of them as islands that only connect to Italy... these island just aren't on the water. ;)
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby natty dread on Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:37 am

Yeah, I was also very confused when I first played this map. Cost me the game IIRC.
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby denominator on Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:51 pm

Not sure whether this is a map issue, a BOB issue, or a site issue, but figured I'd start here.

I went to reinforce from Gibraltar to France, but my drop-down menu lists France 3 times.

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I chose the first option and it worked, so I'm not entirely sure where my troops would have gone had I chosen either of the other 2 Frances being offered. Maybe it's reading that there are 3 possible routes for me to reinforce France from Gibraltar so it gives me the option 3 times?
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Re: Europa [Quenched]

Postby natty dread on Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:30 pm

It's not a map issue, or a BOB issue: I don't use BOB and I've had the same happen on several maps now. The drop menu lists some countries twice when attacking or reinforcing.
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