Conquer Club

JJM wrote:So if Transcontinental has a 4 man bonus and Motherland has 1 woulden't Transcontinental have 5 total.

Yes, and no. You do get the +5, but it is a result of the +4 from Trans. and +1 from Motherland.
Game 3503966
2008-10-29 17:21:14 - totschen receives 4 troops for holding Transcontinental Europe
2008-10-29 17:21:14 - totschen receives 1 troops for holding The Motherland

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Hi,

I'm playing in Game 5443226 and I am holding Transcontinental for several rounds (without Kgd) but get no reinforcement (+4) for it. Is there a bug ??

there's no bug, olivier. for the benelux bonus, u must hold all pink regions. similarly, for the transcontinental bonus, u must hold all brown regions. kgd is brown, therefore it is part of the transcontinental bonus. good luck!

ian.

why can't i assault from vat?

Game 6256195

vat connects only to Italy, same as smr. vat and smr aren't connected, they reside inside Italy. You can attack back and forth between Italy to both vat and smr, but not between the two.

any particular reason why?

is there somewhere on the map where this information is available that i missed?

Those countries are extremely small, even by European standards. MrBenn's aim with the map was to, as accurately as possible, represent the political state of European continent than has ever be depicted before on a CC map.

In doing so there are several territories representing these very small countries as territories. The geographic position of these territories(vat-Vatican City and smr-San Marino) exist within Italy as independent states. Each one is separated by several hundred miles and do not share a border. So MrBenn has put the territories on the map as they exist.



So playing on the map you can attack to vat to Italy & smr to Italy and visa versa, but smr and vat do not connect because Italy is in between them. There isn't anything you missed, vat and smr are just very small territories within the much larger Italy territory. Just think of them as islands that only connect to Italy... these island just aren't on the water.

Yeah, I was also very confused when I first played this map. Cost me the game IIRC.

Not sure whether this is a map issue, a BOB issue, or a site issue, but figured I'd start here.

I went to reinforce from Gibraltar to France, but my drop-down menu lists France 3 times.



I chose the first option and it worked, so I'm not entirely sure where my troops would have gone had I chosen either of the other 2 Frances being offered. Maybe it's reading that there are 3 possible routes for me to reinforce France from Gibraltar so it gives me the option 3 times?

It's not a map issue, or a BOB issue: I don't use BOB and I've had the same happen on several maps now. The drop menu lists some countries twice when attacking or reinforcing.

natty_dread wrote:It's not a map issue, or a BOB issue: I don't use BOB and I've had the same happen on several maps now. The drop menu lists some countries twice when attacking or reinforcing.

To Suggs and Bugs I go then!

I played Europa a few times when i first joined CC and i got +4 for holding transcontinental (without kdg), now im playing it and one of my opponents isnt getting a bonus for it . . .

AGJ12 wrote:I played Europa a few times when i first joined CC and i got +4 for holding transcontinental (without kdg), now im playing it and one of my opponents isnt getting a bonus for it . . .

Well thats odd. 6356579 is the only time you have ever played this map with this account. What other account did you use so we may investigate your bonus.

jefjef wrote:

AGJ12 wrote:I played Europa a few times when i first joined CC and i got +4 for holding transcontinental (without kdg), now im playing it and one of my opponents isnt getting a bonus for it . . .

Well thats odd. 6356579 is the only time you have ever played this map with this account. What other account did you use so we may investigate your bonus.

He means "investigate your multi abuse"

I'm contemplating giving this map a makeover. Any thoughts?

thinner borders

natty dread wrote:thinner borders

Yeah, that' would be a given

Redrawn borders... but should I keep a similarish feel?

Well I think you should just figure out what you want to do and then figure out how to make it happen...

The current look of the map works ok, but if you're going to redo the graphics anyway there's no point in constraining your design to the current style. There's also lots of elements on the current map that look blurry (borders, mountains, the ocean texture to mention a few), and an overall sharper style would probably serve the map better, especially considering there's several very small territories.

Well, I've spent the last two evenings playing around, and have to say I'm happy with the direction it's going. However, while I think the map would benefit from the improvements I'm playing around with, I'm beginning to think I'll keep any amendments to myself and refrain from posting them publicly.

MrBenn wrote:I'm beginning to think I'll keep any amendments to myself and refrain from posting them publicly.

I was just about to ask to see what you had.

MrBenn wrote:Well, I've spent the last two evenings playing around, and have to say I'm happy with the direction it's going. However, while I think the map would benefit from the improvements I'm playing around with, I'm beginning to think I'll keep any amendments to myself and refrain from posting them publicly.

By far the most urgent change is to fix the error in the bonus structure. Currently the legend says that you get +4 for holding the "transcontinental" bonus (russia+turkey) and another +1 if you also hold kaliningrad. But in actual fact it doesn't pay out the +4 unless you have kaliningrad also, so the extra +1 is really meaningless. It's just a +5 bonus for the whole enchilada.

Either the bonus structure should be changed or the legend should be changed.

Dukasaur wrote:

MrBenn wrote:Well, I've spent the last two evenings playing around, and have to say I'm happy with the direction it's going. However, while I think the map would benefit from the improvements I'm playing around with, I'm beginning to think I'll keep any amendments to myself and refrain from posting them publicly.

By far the most urgent change is to fix the error in the bonus structure. Currently the legend says that you get +4 for holding the "transcontinental" bonus (russia+turkey) and another +1 if you also hold kaliningrad. But in actual fact it doesn't pay out the +4 unless you have kaliningrad also, so the extra +1 is really meaningless. It's just a +5 bonus for the whole enchilada.

Either the bonus structure should be changed or the legend should be changed.

No - that's you misreading it.


You get +1 for uniting the Motherland (Kaliningrad is actually part of Russia).

The Transcontinental region is all the brown areas, and holding the lot gives you the +4; the two bonuses combine for a total of +5.

I've got a great idea.... Why don't we add a note to the map highlighting this fact:

MrBenn wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:

MrBenn wrote:Well, I've spent the last two evenings playing around, and have to say I'm happy with the direction it's going. However, while I think the map would benefit from the improvements I'm playing around with, I'm beginning to think I'll keep any amendments to myself and refrain from posting them publicly.

By far the most urgent change is to fix the error in the bonus structure. Currently the legend says that you get +4 for holding the "transcontinental" bonus (russia+turkey) and another +1 if you also hold kaliningrad. But in actual fact it doesn't pay out the +4 unless you have kaliningrad also, so the extra +1 is really meaningless. It's just a +5 bonus for the whole enchilada.

Either the bonus structure should be changed or the legend should be changed.

No - that's you misreading it.


You get +1 for uniting the Motherland (Kaliningrad is actually part of Russia).

The Transcontinental region is all the brown areas, and holding the lot gives you the +4; the two bonuses combine for a total of +5.

Ah, ok. I did know that Kaliningrad was politically part of Russia, but I assumed the brown bonus was not originally intended to include it (because it's Prussian land and not part of traditional or historical Russia).

I've got a great idea.... Why don't we add a note to the map highlighting this fact:

Image link didn't work first time I saw it, but now it seems to work. And yes, good idea.

I was unable to attack from San Marino to France or Slovenia. First time I used the map. IsnKt this a legal attack? Game# 11775906

SirLindsley wrote:I was unable to attack from San Marino to France or Slovenia. First time I used the map. IsnKt this a legal attack? Game# 11775906

No, San Marino is "trapped" by Italy. Italy is the only region that can attack or be attacked by San Marino.