The New World [Quenched]

[Coleman]

As far as combinations of things go I'm not sure how things fall, but in a 1v1 or 4v4 if it is all natives vs europe somehow natives should always win because the amount of borders they need to defened is small and the large territory bonus really add up fast.

Are there any glaring problems not 1v1 related you'd like me to take a look at?

[yeti_c]

Having played a couple of 1v1's -> I think this map is pretty balanced...

I think you are at an advantage - if you get more "Homelands"...

But that's the drop isn't it.

C.

[BENJIKAT IS DEAD]

Are there any glaring problems not 1v1 related you'd like me to take a look at?

Look back a few posts and read my analysis re. probability of taking someone out on the first turn. My opinion was that you would like "the cook's gambit" to be about as likely as it ended up being for AoR:Might - but now you can give your own opinion

[BENJIKAT IS DEAD]

PS Welcome back

[yeti_c]

I like the map - but I think that the bonuses might be a bit big...

I ended the game with 40 odd territories (lots still neutral) and a +80 bonus...

Perhaps toning down the huge auto deploy bonuses... - and make it 3 territories to get +1 bonus?

C.

[max is gr8]

I think that the europeans nearly always win, in nearly all of the games I have played on home world I do not think I have seen a homeworld win.

[Astoria]

I think that the europeans nearly always win, in nearly all of the games I have played on home world I do not think I have seen a homeworld win.

That's not like that. In 4-8 players game europeans will have advantage, that's for sure. But when 2 or 3 players are playing on the NW then homelands will have advantage if you know how to use it of course.

[Elijah S]

I've not played many games on this map yet, but I just wanted to tell you guys this map is fricking brilliant!
I think, as with all maps, the bonuses will be something that people get used to and learn to work with; And the gameplay, at least for the few games I'm in, sets this board in a category by itself. -Certain to inspire some creative ideas from other cartos.
Well done!

[Ditocoaf]

I'm just finishing up my first game on this map, and I have to say this is one of my favorite maps I've encountered so far. I've always loved Feudal War, but this is even better.

Strange thing; probably a BOB problem--BOB's reporting each person's territory count as 1 less than it actually is. Each player started with "0", and now each of the eliminated players have "-1" territs...

[hulmey]

im not very good at this map and i LOVE IT, pity my points have dropped from 2400 to 1800 (damn you coleman)

[yeti_c]

I'm just finishing up my first game on this map, and I have to say this is one of my favorite maps I've encountered so far. I've always loved Feudal War, but this is even better.

Strange thing; probably a BOB problem--BOB's reporting each person's territory count as 1 less than it actually is. Each player started with "0", and now each of the eliminated players have "-1" territs...

Yeah - I'm aware of this issue and I'm considering a fix...

C.

[kletka]

That's not like that. In 4-8 players game europeans will have advantage, that's for sure. But when 2 or 3 players are playing on the NW then homelands will have advantage if you know how to use it of course.

Wrong! In a 4 player game with cards, the best setting is one EU, one native homeland.

But overall, this is probably the best (fun, balance) that ever came out of our foundry

[lunatic96]

I think if you could move French Landing Point armies indicator a little to the left because when there's double digit armies on it the numbers slightly creep over to the Old World inset and it's kind of annoying.

Great map though, I'm really loving it.

[Coleman]

I think if you could move French Landing Point armies indicator a little to the left because when there's double digit armies on it the numbers slightly creep over to the Old World inset and it's kind of annoying.

Great map though, I'm really loving it.

Yay something easy to fix.

I'm recognizing the imbalance in an 8 player game. The only good solution for natives is to work together early on, which is not something most of CC is of the mindset to do. From my observations there is a greater tendency for natives to attack each other even more in these games, so players often shoot themselves in the foot so to speak.

Since I can't brainwash all of CC into playing better, I've looked at gameplay solutions but none I can think of would improve an 8 player situation without damaging balance in 4 player and below games.

[lunatic96]

I think one problem is that the Mapuche homeland can easily attack Portugal and Holland, where the other 3 natives really only have 1 country to attack. I'm not really sure how you can fix that, but it seems like it slightly overpowers Mapuche.