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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:31 pm

yep.
If you are holding all three parts of the Grand Oasis when you start your next turn, you win.
Thats exactly how its supposed to work, no bugs there.
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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby pepperonibread on Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:10 pm

Wikipedia says it's oases.
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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby campkev on Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:13 pm

It looks like I need to submit a bug report on my reading skills. I could have sworn it said that you had to hold it for three turns. But I looked at the rules again and I completely misread it. D@#%it. I could have won that game if I had read it right
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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby Marshes on Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:37 am

Fwiw, even though you were originally confused about how to end the game. I do agree the game ends to quick, specially in freestyle.
The neutral armies should be beefed up in the middle imho or you should have to be able to hold them for 1 full round not 10seconds of one round.

Great map though.
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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby Thezzaruz on Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:49 am

Marshes wrote: I do agree the game ends to quick, specially in freestyle.


Victory conditions and the freestyle setting (especially in speed games) ain't a good match of formats. It's just something one needs to know.
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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby gimil on Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:40 am

Map issues/suggestions should be discussed in the map development thread which can be found in the final forge sub forum in the map foundry.

Here is a link to the thread for OASIS which is where I encourage discussion to continue :)

Oasis Development Thread

I will flag this up and see if cicerio or a global mod will move it over to the foundry.

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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.

Postby cicero on Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:42 pm

gimil wrote:I will flag this up and see if cicerio or a global mod will move it over to the foundry

This thread, started in Suggestions & Bug Reports moved to Foundry Discussion forum for merging with the quenched Oasis thread in Map Foundry - Final Forge subforum.

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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby gimil on Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:19 am

Just merged a thread (Oasis game ending too soon.) in here that was started in suggestions and bug reports. About 9 posts long.


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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:30 am

:roll: so much work for the mods.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby paulk on Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:19 am

I have not read the whole thread so I have no idea if this has been suggested before.

But I wish that desert territories occupied by your armies, if they only had 1 on them would become neutral 1's instead.
That way you could not leave anyone left in the desert, because they would simply die. And the -1 for this and that territory would actually mean something, even when you only have 1 left.
Maybe just maybe, the desert territories starting with 2, 3 or 4 also could build back to that?

Thats my 2 cents.

Good map otherwise.
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Re: Oasis MAPBUG

Postby thepurpleyeti on Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:00 pm

Game # 3907471
Units in the dessert are not decaying as described, instead, a -1 army penaly appears at the beginning of the turn, but before units are awarded for territories and oasis bonuses. this is resulting in dessert terts not having any ill effect on their holders at all.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby The Neon Peon on Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:15 pm

That is because the units are ones.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:44 pm

I'm going to recommend that the BETA tag be removed from this map... the concerns above have more to do with CC's gameplay engine (1 army terits can't lose 1, victory conditions can be exploited in freestyle games, etc.) than with the features of this map.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:48 pm

oaktown wrote:I'm going to recommend that the BETA tag be removed from this map... the concerns above have more to do with CC's gameplay engine (1 army terits can't lose 1, victory conditions can be exploited in freestyle games, etc.) than with the features of this map.


That would be nice.
No more beta.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby n00blet on Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:29 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:
oaktown wrote:I'm going to recommend that the BETA tag be removed from this map... the concerns above have more to do with CC's gameplay engine (1 army terits can't lose 1, victory conditions can be exploited in freestyle games, etc.) than with the features of this map.


That would be nice.
No more beta.


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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby Theguyoverthere on Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:55 pm

How come Oasis of Loyalty (an oasis with 5 neutrals on it) is 7 nuetrals away from the grand oases, rather thn the 4 that all the other ones are?
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby wcaclimbing on Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:28 pm

Theguyoverthere wrote:How come Oasis of Loyalty (an oasis with 5 neutrals on it) is 7 nuetrals away from the grand oases, rather thn the 4 that all the other ones are?


Hey.... I never noticed that.
Its the only 5 Oasis with more than one space from the center.
Interesting....

That won't be changed, Its just how the map was made.
It doesn't hurt anything to keep it how it is.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby hendrr on Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:15 pm

The Negative Bonus doesn't work the way it should. Instead of reducing the number of troops, the Negative Bonuses are taken at the beginning, then the Positive Bonuses are taken. It should be the other way around. If you have more negatives than positives, then you don't get any armies for deployment.

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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:25 pm

hendrr wrote:The Negative Bonus doesn't work the way it should. Instead of reducing the number of troops, the Negative Bonuses are taken at the beginning, then the Positive Bonuses are taken. It should be the other way around. If you have more negatives than positives, then you don't get any armies for deployment.

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It's not that the actual troop drop is negative, it's that the # of armies on the actual desert territories gets a -1 until it's at 1.

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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby hendrr on Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:23 am

It still doesn't work (see Game 4462102 for more details). I placed armies on desert and still got credit.

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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby n00blet on Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:21 am

Reaadddddd when someone replies to you!

That is how it's supposed to work.
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby hendrr on Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:53 pm

n00blet wrote:Reaadddddd when someone replies to you!

That is how it's supposed to work.


I am saying in Game 4462102, the armies any player placed in the desert AND at the Grand Oasis (1, 2 or 3) never declined. I placed a barrier of 4 armies in each desert spot around the Grand Oasis and there was still 4 left where the other players hadn't attacked my armies.

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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby Timminz on Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:09 pm

the troops get taken away when you click "Begin turn"
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Re: Oasis [Quenched]

Postby Thezzaruz on Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:34 pm

Timminz wrote:the troops get taken away when you click "Begin turn"


Unless you obtain the objective when clicking "Begin turn" ofc.
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