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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:31 pm

could be a good idea, but i feel like it might just be like playing 2.1 but only half of it, you know what i'm saying oak??

once we get a draft, we can see whats up
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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:34 pm

East, West...it is all a matter of perspective. ;)

I like this idea...we have numerous maps of the "World" and maps of smaller areas I.E. continents...so why not go in between and do Half World maps like this? I like it.

If you wanted to be real crazy...you could do Above and Below the Equator maps also! ;) But that may not work so well.


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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby CatfishJohnson on Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:35 am

artic is basically the northern hemisphere, so techinacally u have that one done lol, u could do antartic, if u wanted to go south dough
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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby t-o-m on Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:44 am

CatfishJohnson wrote:artic is basically the northern hemisphere, so techinacally u have that one done lol, u could do antartic, if u wanted to go south dough

you mean antarctic ;) lol
antarctica has been suggested before - but the problems were in splitting it up into conts and labeling, and that there would be little impassables and the gameplay would be crap - i think anyway, i'll look it up
i think that we can almost never have enough world maps, as long as theyre not too similar to one another...i think this map will go far,

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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby oaktown on Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:36 pm

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very early draft - I don't have anything worked out yet, I just wanted to get the file started and actually upload something.
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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:41 pm

What, and no Europe bonus? ;)
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Re: Hemisphere!

Postby oaktown on Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:49 pm

InkL0sed wrote:What, and no Europe bonus? ;)

oops - yes, there would of course be a Europe bonus. Maybe even two separate bonuses for the Central Powers and the Entente (sp?) Powers.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:13 pm

I don't know if a WWI themed map for the Eastern Hemisphere is very good -- most of the fighting was focused in Europe. I think this should just be a geographical map.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby TaCktiX on Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:16 pm

I say keep it geographic, but use some older political boundaries than present day. I'm liking the look you've got right now, and if you want to age the boundaries to WWI era, more power to you, just don't make WWI proper the focus.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby oaktown on Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:18 pm

TaCktiX wrote:I say keep it geographic, but use some older political boundaries than present day. I'm liking the look you've got right now, and if you want to age the boundaries to WWI era, more power to you, just don't make WWI proper the focus.

right... it doesn't haveto be WWI per se, but i like having the 1914 theme to push the graphics.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby greenoaks on Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:53 pm

this doesn't grab me. i feel ripped off playing for half the world.

i can understand playing for a city, country, continent or the entire world.
i can understand playing a region that has been involved a war.

but right now this just seems to fall between those two.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby InkL0sed on Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:55 pm

oaktown wrote:
TaCktiX wrote:I say keep it geographic, but use some older political boundaries than present day. I'm liking the look you've got right now, and if you want to age the boundaries to WWI era, more power to you, just don't make WWI proper the focus.

right... it doesn't haveto be WWI per se, but i like having the 1914 theme to push the graphics.


Right... so don't mention WWI. Call it "The Old World in 1913" or something like that.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby edbeard on Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:54 pm

I know it's an early draft, but you've got some darn small countries on there. What'll happen with the small map?

Are you splitting up these areas more for bonuses? Almost every one has ten territories. Maybe it's not a bad thing. Just a different style for the map.


I think you've chosen the colours quite well btw.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby CatfishJohnson on Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:24 pm

Well man, it called a hemisphere for a reason, its half, i mean why would u be ripped off, it allows u to go into more detail on that half of the earth, then u can do the other half with NA and SA on it fo sho
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby oaktown on Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:44 pm

edbeard wrote:I know it's an early draft, but you've got some darn small countries on there. What'll happen with the small map?

Are you splitting up these areas more for bonuses? Almost every one has ten territories. Maybe it's not a bad thing. Just a different style for the map.

Everything is up for discussion... I just like the overall footprint of the Eastern Hemisphere as a map. We could do big regions, more small regions, or sub-regions within continents like World 2.1. I'd like to hear what you all think works.

Going back a bit in time offers two things to the project:
1. a bit more flexibility in terms of how we draw borders. A contemporary map runs into all sorts of problems about what we call Israel, including Kosovo, etc.
2. visual direction.

As for exactly how far back we go, that is also up for discussion. The 1910s present a particularly violent period for the Eastern Hemisphere, with fighting in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, India, the Pacific Islands, and Colonial regions of China. New Zealand and Australia were involved in the great war, ancient empires in Asia and Europe collapsed, new nations were forged, revolutions were begun.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war

Postby Kaplowitz on Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:48 pm

I think some of the countries are too big, while others are too small. I think you should do only a geographical map with geographical borders. Maybe for gfx you could try to recreate a satellite image. That would look really cool (and IMO cooler than the actual satellite image!)
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war (w. new poll)

Postby Incandenza on Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:01 pm

I don't think the eastern hemisphere is a bad idea, but I voted for the L.A. map, for obvious reasons. 8-)
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war (w. new poll)

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:28 am

I love the idea of an eastern hemisphere map, but not the current graphics or the 1914 theme. The satelite idea suggested by Kaplowitz sounds very promising.
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Re: Hemisphere: the world at war (w. new poll)

Postby oaktown on Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:42 am

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Still haven't had the time I'd like to attack this map, but I thought I'd at least post what I have before I forget about it.

I hear the comments about going satellite image, but that's not really something I get excited about... I prefer the historical aspect of maps, as some of you may have gathered from my past work. Anyway, I'm going to try to lay out an early 19th century eastern hemisphere with territories and regions, and then we can worry about what it will look like.
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Re: Eastern Hemisphere

Postby t-o-m on Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:07 am

like it...
the russian terit looks impossible to hold - maybe instead of having sub-conts have a bonus for collecting things inside it -(like the stars on WWII map)??
and there is a lil bit of orange on thailand/burma-that region anyway - its probably just a mistake
but over all the conts really do look hard to hold - but youre going to put immpassables on it right?
also is it too big or ok?
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Re: Eastern Hemisphere

Postby ZeakCytho on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:39 pm

I think 1910 is a much better year than 1914, simply because you can put Germany, France, and GB in the same continent (Europe) now.

You seem to be using different font/styles for different territories? Turkestan, Siberia, Taymyr, and other territories in that region don't have a glow on them, but others in Russia ( Moscow, Ukraine, Finland) do. Personally, I like the glow better.

I think you need to change the background to something slightly more water-like.

The territory of Afghanistan isn't where Afghanistan is at all, or was at the time. Could that be named something else?

Are Korea and Japan part of the SE Asia bonus? You might want to consider making them a continent of their own. I'm not a big fan of split continents.

So far, so good, though. :)
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Re: Eastern Hemisphere

Postby t-o-m on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:51 pm

is kinda all over the place, but as you said youve not had the time to do it,
t-o-m wrote:and there is a lil bit of orange on thailand/burma-that region anyway - its probably just a mistake

also on persia and the ottoman empire (but thats red)
and some red on the right hand side of persia
and soem brown on S. Afirca (the 1st yellow terit at the top left of that cont)
and blue in russia
lack of red colour in amur
green in Tumerikstan
the territ boarders arnt complete
basically you need to just spend some time on this when youve got some ;)
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Re: Eastern Hemisphere

Postby oaktown on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:52 pm

I'm not even worried about the fonts, color over-lapping, etc. The map isn't at the point where I'm at all worried about how it looks.

Gameplay wise everything region is going to a bitch to hold as it stands right now. I'll throw in some impassables at some point - alps, himalayas, etc. Perhaps auto-deploys on major cities or key natural resources? Partial bonuses for holding part of a region?
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Re: Eastern Hemisphere

Postby t-o-m on Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:01 pm

oaktown wrote:I'm not even worried about the fonts, color over-lapping, etc. The map isn't at the point where I'm at all worried about how it looks.

Gameplay wise everything region is going to a bitch to hold as it stands right now. I'll throw in some impassables at some point - alps, himalayas, etc. Perhaps auto-deploys on major cities or key natural resources? Partial bonuses for holding part of a region?

yea sub-conts and things (but make the bonuses small so it makes the people go for the whole cont),
you dont want it to be like 2.1 but just chopped off at the side
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Re: Eastern Hemisphere

Postby sam_levi_11 on Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:55 pm

looks great! i like the idea of it, but i bet becuase america isnt on here some people wont play it :roll: :lol:
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