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by **Ruben Cassar** on Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:36 pm

obliterationX wrote:Thank you very much for this map, Ruben Cassar! As you can see, I've enjoyed some freestyle speed games on this map already. The bonus system appeals to me a lot, not to mention that the map is a great size (and very playable!).

I'm glad you like it mate!

by **Ruben Cassar** on Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:26 am

Updated XML sent to Lack: http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/2/11/2316837/sanmarino.xml

by **thenobodies80** on Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:45 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:Grazie amico. Ma tu non dormi mai? :p

No , thenobodies80 is always here!

Sleep is useless...i try to sleep less i can, there's too much to do in life to sleep. :lol:

by **Sasky** on Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:46 am

Excellent map. Very well done.

by **ahote** on Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:54 pm

Hi,

Don't know if this is the right place for this, but the San Marino map has a Pearl harbour problem. The size of the bonus territories means that often one of the players starts with a bonus and can then either kill the other person's potential bonus (by taking a torri, say) or can extend his bonus easily.

Not sure what the answer is, but maybe by making the bonus territories larger, so that the chances of someone starting with 6 troops is reduced.

Just my thoughts.

The present case almost always leads to the one who goes first, winning.

by **Ruben Cassar** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:55 am

ahote wrote:Hi,

Don't know if this is the right place for this, but the San Marino map has a Pearl harbour problem. The size of the bonus territories means that often one of the players starts with a bonus and can then either kill the other person's potential bonus (by taking a torri, say) or can extend his bonus easily.

Not sure what the answer is, but maybe by making the bonus territories larger, so that the chances of someone starting with 6 troops is reduced.

Just my thoughts.

The present case almost always leads to the one who goes first, winning.

Are you talking about 1vs1? Because I think in team games, especially triples and quads it's much more difficult to get the bonuses.

The bonuses are easy to attack though once conquered...maybe your game was just bad luck or a bad drop.

However if many think the bonuses are too easy to hold a possible solution could be making the torri regions start with 1 or 2 neutral units on them.

What do other people think? Is this necessary or is the map fine as it is?

by **MrBenn** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:22 am

You could add starting position tags for the Torri, so that they are evenly distributed? Although I'm not convinced it's a really big problem so far??

by **Ruben Cassar** on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:25 am

MrBenn wrote:You could add starting position tags for the Torri, so that they are evenly distributed? Although I'm not convinced it's a really big problem so far??

Hmm...I did not know that was possible with the XML. You mean each player gets an even amount of torri regions at the start?

Although I think it would be better to make them neutral. However I want to see if there is the need for this change or not. Maybe I should make a poll?

by **ahote** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:49 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
Are you talking about 1vs1? Because I think in team games, especially triples and quads it's much more difficult to get the bonuses.

The bonuses are easy to attack though once conquered...maybe your game was just bad luck or a bad drop.

However if many think the bonuses are too easy to hold a possible solution could be making the torri regions start with 1 or 2 neutral units on them.

What do other people think? Is this necessary or is the map fine as it is?

The solutions with the torri regions could work and yes, sorry, I was talking just about the 1 on 1 situation. I like the map when more players are involved and having said that, I should just probably stfu and not play one on one games on it :-)

Thanks for taking the time to reply - I didn't expect that quite frankly!

by **Ruben Cassar** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:47 pm

ahote wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:
Are you talking about 1vs1? Because I think in team games, especially triples and quads it's much more difficult to get the bonuses.

The bonuses are easy to attack though once conquered...maybe your game was just bad luck or a bad drop.

However if many think the bonuses are too easy to hold a possible solution could be making the torri regions start with 1 or 2 neutral units on them.

What do other people think? Is this necessary or is the map fine as it is?

The solutions with the torri regions could work and yes, sorry, I was talking just about the 1 on 1 situation. I like the map when more players are involved and having said that, I should just probably stfu and not play one on one games on it

Thanks for taking the time to reply - I didn't expect that quite frankly!

Thanks for your feedback ahote.

I am considering the neutral option but I would like to have some feedback from other people about this as well...and as you can see it's hard to get feedback these days.

by **oaktown** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:13 pm

i admit to not having spent much time playing this map so I won't speak to what you should do, but as for what you can do... yes, it would be possible to set up the code so that territories are split up in two and/or three player games. You could code three start positions so it would only affect 2 and 3 player games - if there are more than three players the start positions would be ignored.

by **Ruben Cassar** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:16 pm

oaktown wrote:i admit to not having spent much time playing this map so I won't speak to what you should do, but as for what you can do... yes, it would be possible to set up the code so that territories are split up in two and/or three player games. You could code three start positions so it would only affect 2 and 3 player games - if there are more than three players the start positions would be ignored.

Thanks for the feedback oak. I think Ben suggested that earlier.

However I think the problem might be present even in doubles (2v2) games. That's why I am opting for the neutrals. Maybe I'll put a poll up to gauge the opinion of other players as well.

by **Ruben Cassar** on Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:33 pm

Okay I put up a poll with 4 options. It will run for 30 days. That should be ample time.

Like in every decent democracy I will see what the other have to say and then (of course) at the end I will completely ignore whatever the others say and decide what I want. :mrgreen:

by **thenobodies80** on Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:01 pm

i play some games on your map.

I love it!

I think that if a player starts with the lower left zone could have an advantage.
But on the whole i like your map, there's some different way to take the victory.
And a bit of luck

i suggest you to set 1 neutral.

(I only played 1 vs 1 game)

But if you like leave the map as it is now!
It's funny

Thenobodies80