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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&2 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:17 am

ok heres version 4,
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i added immpassables - mountains and forests (its the first time ive made 'em so go easy ;) lol)
i also added a lil bit of bevel to the compass rose - so hopefully it looks more realistic,
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any comments on what bonuses you think there should be?
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby cena-rules on Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:22 am

The mountains look like simple lines but the forests are ok.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:32 am

thanks, yea the mountains need work - as i said never done em before lol
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:21 am

Hi Tom.

The yellow looks a bit too bright in my opinion. Maybe you could tone it down a bit? Even the army shadows are a bit lost on that background.

I also don't like the background of the title text and edges of the biscuit like thing! Hehe it reminds me of the Plasmon biscuits they give to little kids and babies. :)

Keep up the good work.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:34 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:Hi Tom.

hi :D
Ruben Cassar wrote:The yellow looks a bit too bright in my opinion. Maybe you could tone it down a bit?

thats what i was thinking when i first did that - but then no1 commented on it so i kinda forgot about that
Ruben Cassar wrote:Even the army shadows are a bit lost on that background.

yea i saw that, that will change
Ruben Cassar wrote:I also don't like the background of the title text and edges of the biscuit like thing! Hehe it reminds me of the Plasmon biscuits they give to little kids and babies. :)

lmao - no i dont know what you mean by that - funny story though,
i think i will try somethings different with the title and things
Ruben Cassar wrote:Keep up the good work.

cheers,
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d'you think i should make the yellow darkers, or just take some of the colour out of the yellow?
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:42 am

Tom this is a Plasmon biscuit. :)

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About the yellow colour region why not try adding some opacity to it or applying a filter to see how it looks?
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby TaCktiX on Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:52 am

Gameplay-wise, the yellow and green continents are very open. Is there any chance of adding some impassables to their left sides? I noticed the use of trees in certain areas, so I suppose there's a game preserve in that area to help you out. ;)
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby jiminski on Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:54 pm

Nice map.. needs more Lemurs!
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:30 pm

I think both the mountain and jungle impassables need major work.

The compass rose really pops out - I'd make it much less opaque so it blends into the ocean. Also, the N, E, and S letters are not properly rotated or aligned with the actual direction. W seems fine.

I think the ocean could use more work too. It's very flat right now. I'd make it darker and, if possible, create a sense of depth to it.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:33 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:Tom this is a Plasmon biscuit. :)

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lmao
Ruben Cassar wrote:About the yellow colour region why not try adding some opacity to it or applying a filter to see how it looks?

ill try that
TaCktiX wrote:Gameplay-wise, the yellow and green continents are very open.

yea i aggree
TaCktiX wrote:Is there any chance of adding some impassables to their left sides?

sure thing :)
TaCktiX wrote:I noticed the use of trees in certain areas, so I suppose there's a game preserve in that area to help you out. ;)

its not really game reserve, its more of acctaul forest/tree areas - but the same principle lol
jiminski wrote:Nice map.. needs more Lemurs!

lol, i might try that ;) just for youu lol
ZeakCytho wrote:I think both the mountain and jungle impassables need major work.

mountains yea sure, jungle i didnt think was so bad is it? i can always make another one but i didnt think that the jungle one was that much of a problem???
ZeakCytho wrote:The compass rose really pops out - I'd make it much less opaque so it blends into the ocean.

ok, maybe i could try sort of fading it into the ocean by trying a colour/gradiant overlay at a very low ocpacity? what ya think of that?
ZeakCytho wrote:Also, the N, E, and S letters are not properly rotated or aligned with the actual direction. W seems fine.

mmm - ill get onto that,
the "W" seems fine coz its italic i think :)
ZeakCytho wrote:I think the ocean could use more work too. It's very flat right now. I'd make it darker and, if possible, create a sense of depth to it.

darker yes,
do you think that a pattern would do it? with a lil bit more depth in it? would that help or make it look stupid?
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ill try and include all of these in my next update - hopefully soon :)
thanks very much for all of your suggestions :D
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:38 pm

t-o-m wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I think both the mountain and jungle impassables need major work.

mountains yea sure, jungle i didnt think was so bad is it? i can always make another one but i didnt think that the jungle one was that much of a problem???


I don't like the trees very much. They're just sticks with circles on them and don't seem to convey the spirit of the jungle of Madgascar at all. Also, they're not very pretty to look at.

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ZeakCytho wrote:The compass rose really pops out - I'd make it much less opaque so it blends into the ocean.

ok, maybe i could try sort of fading it into the ocean by trying a colour/gradiant overlay at a very low ocpacity? what ya think of that?


Just setting the compass to a lower opacity (maybe 50%?) should solve the problem. A color overlay could work too, but it might not be necessary.

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ZeakCytho wrote:I think the ocean could use more work too. It's very flat right now. I'd make it darker and, if possible, create a sense of depth to it.

darker yes,
do you think that a pattern would do it? with a lil bit more depth in it? would that help or make it look stupid?


If the pattern is at a very low opacity, it could be good. If it's too strong, then it might just look stupid ;)
It's hard to say without actually seeing it, though.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:42 pm

thanks Zeak - i would quote you but i just did loads of that lol so ill just say things randomly ;) :
the trees - yea i see ur point - 1st time ive done them so i did lolly pop trees lol
compass ocpacity lowered - yea ok ill try that
pattern - i will try that aswel - low ocpacity ;)
thanks Zeak
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i might update it now - but ive just got in and its 10.40pm so i probably wil do it later on, like in a couple a hours - check back then :)
thanks again :)
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:57 pm

ok here we go, the sea isnt very dark - i tried but ive got a thing about lightness lol
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.5 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby rocky mountain on Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:24 pm

as for bonuses, i think:
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    Toamasina-2
    Fianarantsoa-3
    Toliara-4
    Antsiranana-1
    Mahajanga-3

of course i'm no expert cartographer, so...
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.5 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby hadati on Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:50 am

use the exel tool in map making tools for bonuses
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.5 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:44 am

hadati wrote:use the exel tool in map making tools for bonuses

no that only gives ideas - it isnt very accurate and gives bad readings sometimes,
i would prefer to make some up and get critisism from people,
ill do that now
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.5 Pages 1&3 IMMPASSABLES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:14 am

Ok, bonuses added - thats it
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby Kaplowitz on Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:00 am

Cool map!

-I dont like the forest near Melaky, the green circles are noticeably just green circles.
-The army circles are a little pixely. Maybe you could have a more unique one anyway...like a lemur head or something.
-The colors are a little too similar, and it may be hard to tell which is which....
-IMO the mts look...slimy...if no one else cares, i wouldnt worry about that.
-Maybe some recognizable Madagascar images in the bg?
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-All of the bigger bonuses are on the bottom of the map, but that may not be bad. Im just pointing that out.

Just some points, take em or leave em
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:02 am

I think you should make a mini map to portray the bonuses.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:26 am

Kaplowitz wrote:Cool map!

thanks :D
Kaplowitz wrote:-I dont like the forest near Melaky, the green circles are noticeably just green circles.

i totally agree - its a bit on its own and doesnt fit in...
Kaplowitz wrote:-The army circles are a little pixely. Maybe you could have a more unique one anyway...like a lemur head or something.

interesting idea - i might try that ;) :lol:
Kaplowitz wrote:-The colors are a little too similar, and it may be hard to tell which is which....

i dont really see any similarities in the colours! - apart from the beigey colur and the brown - mainly on the legend/key
Kaplowitz wrote:-IMO the mts look...slimy...if no one else cares, i wouldnt worry about that.

mmm - its just a line with 0% hardness with bevel on it - thats all so its nothing special lol - i might try and make some better ones but not in the next update
Kaplowitz wrote:-Maybe some recognizable Madagascar images in the bg?

maybe i dont know - thats not a big deal for the mo - i will try that in a later version :)
Kaplowitz wrote:-All of the bigger bonuses are on the bottom of the map, but that may not be bad. Im just pointing that out.

hmm...is that a big problem?
if the big bonuses were at the bottom and there were some small ones next to it, if they held the big one they could easily take the small ones and win quicker - so i dont see that as a problem
Kaplowitz wrote:Just some points, take em or leave em

take 'emm cheers :)
Ruben Cassar wrote:I think you should make a mini map to portray the bonuses.

umm...i dont know why but i dont wanna do that is there enough room?
maybe if a few other want it i will add it :)
thanks for the suggestuions :)
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Postby ZeakCytho on Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:38 am

The minimap would be instead of the legend box, so yes, you'd have room. I think a minimap would probably look better.

I still think the ocean and both kind of impassables need work.

You overcorrected the rotation on the N and S in the legend. E is properly rotated, but needs to be moved a pixel or two down to bring it in line with the compass point.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:47 am

ZeakCytho wrote:You overcorrected the rotation on the N and S in the legend. E is properly rotated, but needs to be moved a pixel or two down to bring it in line with the compass point.

yes about the E
the S seems a bit wonkey - but the N - well i have bad eye sight so i dont know what to do with that - wanna tell me which way it need turning? :lol:
ZeakCytho wrote:I still think the ocean and both kind of impassables need work.

yup - the mountains more than the trees though
how would you do the mountains?
ZeakCytho wrote:The minimap would be instead of the legend box, so yes, you'd have room. I think a minimap would probably look better.

ok ill try it, but i still need the vont names - where would they go?
and the mini-map in a box or floating? (if in a box - a different box to the one i have now)
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby t-o-m on Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:40 pm

ok, ive got 4 versions here:
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haha the lemur heads - thanks Kap :P
i like Version 5C1 best - what do you think?
p.s i will blend the pic in more on the next update :)
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby ZeakCytho on Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:42 pm

I like 5C the best, but the ocean definitely needs more blending.
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Re: Madagascar -UPDATE- Version4.6 Pages 1&4 BONUSES ADDED

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:43 pm

for the mountains (those are mountains, right?), could you make them more rough like real mountains. right now its just a constant line and its not really working for me...

I like the newest army circles you used. You should keep them.
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