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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby Mjinga on Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:33 pm

K, looking forward to the update when you find the psd. :)

Also, you forgot "Why does Haute have a period after it in the key at the bottom and Vato does not?" ;)
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:34 pm

Mjinga wrote:K, looking forward to the update when you find the psd. :)

Also, you forgot "Why does Haute have a period after it in the key at the bottom and Vato does not?" ;)

Ah, now that's just a human error, ill fix that :D
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:03 pm

Ok updated images:

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I did that from the png, ive lost the PSD.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby MrBenn on Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:19 pm

OK,here is a list of some of my nit-picks:
  1. The border around the 'Bonus Key' island looks a bit pixelly.
  2. Beware the blurry bits of bobbly border between Boeny and Betsiboka. (check out my alliteration ;-) )
  3. The old black border is still visible beneath the mountains on the Analanjirofo and Sava border
  4. The knots on the hanging lened still don't quite look right
  5. There are some bobbles on the Menabe/Bongolave border, and where the two areas meet Betafo
  6. I'm still unconvinced by the bevel effect, and that the borders don't quite meet the sea... The region borders do, but the territory border don't, it just seems inconsistent.
  7. It would be nice to have the bonus values next to the region names; the list of names otherwise almost seems redundant

There are some more things I could mention, but I'll leave it there for now ;-)
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:27 pm

MrBenn wrote:OK,here is a list of some of my nit-picks:
  1. The border around the 'Bonus Key' island looks a bit pixelly.
  2. Beware the blurry bits of bobbly border between Boeny and Betsiboka. (check out my alliteration ;-) )
  3. The old black border is still visible beneath the mountains on the Analanjirofo and Sava border
  4. The knots on the hanging lened still don't quite look right
  5. There are some bobbles on the Menabe/Bongolave border, and where the two areas meet Betafo
  6. I'm still unconvinced by the bevel effect, and that the borders don't quite meet the sea... The region borders do, but the territory border don't, it just seems inconsistent.
  7. It would be nice to have the bonus values next to the region names; the list of names otherwise almost seems redundant

There are some more things I could mention, but I'll leave it there for now ;-)

  1. Theres not much i can do about that, other than blur it maybe
  2. Ill fix
  3. Ill fix
  4. Ill try something else
  5. Ill fix
  6. I dont know what you're asking
  7. I think its ok - but i cant do anyhting anyway beacuse i dont have the PSD.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby Mjinga on Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:35 pm

Out of curiosity, what did you change in the update besides the period in the legend?
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:47 am

Mjinga wrote:Out of curiosity, what did you change in the update besides the period in the legend?

Things you suggested that i said i would do, its hard to update things and edit it without the PSD.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby Mjinga on Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:21 pm

Well, you didn't take out the underline of the mountains... nor did you separate the impassable terrain from the words on the legend... and you still have an odd naming system... so really, the only thing I see changed is the period. :?

Would it be very hard to recreate the psd, since you know exactly what to do to get this image back? Cos, I mean, you will need one; you can't expect to say "sorry, no psd" and have that be a reason to not change things.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby gimil on Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:33 pm

Mjinga wrote:Well, you didn't take out the underline of the mountains... nor did you separate the impassable terrain from the words on the legend... and you still have an odd naming system... so really, the only thing I see changed is the period. :?

Would it be very hard to recreate the psd, since you know exactly what to do to get this image back? Cos, I mean, you will need one; you can't expect to say "sorry, no psd" and have that be a reason to not change things.


Sometimes doing a new PSD gives your map a fresh look, may be something worth considering?
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:17 pm

Mjinga wrote:Well, you didn't take out the underline of the mountains... nor did you separate the impassable terrain from the words on the legend... and you still have an odd naming system... so really, the only thing I see changed is the period. :?

Would it be very hard to recreate the psd, since you know exactly what to do to get this image back? Cos, I mean, you will need one; you can't expect to say "sorry, no psd" and have that be a reason to not change things.

gimil wrote:Sometimes doing a new PSD gives your map a fresh look, may be something worth considering?
Mjinga wrote:Well, you didn't take out the underline of the mountains... nor did you separate the impassable terrain from the words on the legend... and you still have an odd naming system... so really, the only thing I see changed is the period. :?

Would it be very hard to recreate the psd, since you know exactly what to do to get this image back? Cos, I mean, you will need one; you can't expect to say "sorry, no psd" and have that be a reason to not change things.


Sometimes doing a new PSD gives your map a fresh look, may be something worth considering?

There is one computer that it may be on, since it was on my pen drive as well, and it may be on there.

Fingers crossed, i dont really want to re-build the PSD.

And Mj, the terr names, if you have better names my ears are open.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby Qwert on Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:14 pm

by MrBenn on Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:19 am

OK,here is a list of some of my nit-picks:

The border around the 'Bonus Key' island looks a bit pixelly.
Beware the blurry bits of bobbly border between Boeny and Betsiboka. (check out my alliteration )
The old black border is still visible beneath the mountains on the Analanjirofo and Sava border
The knots on the hanging lened still don't quite look right
There are some bobbles on the Menabe/Bongolave border, and where the two areas meet Betafo
I'm still unconvinced by the bevel effect, and that the borders don't quite meet the sea... The region borders do, but the territory border don't, it just seems inconsistent.
It would be nice to have the bonus values next to the region names; the list of names otherwise almost seems redundant

There are some more things I could mention, but I'll leave it there for now

T-o-m how you feel now,maybe like me? Do you feel weird?Do you think that everything is ok?
Welcome to nitpicking twiling zone.

Well these map have quit simple graphic,and i dont see any problems,ofcourse i dont want to use microscope to find something. Well its not nice that in final you want to find some problems who is very dificulty to see.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:21 pm

qwert wrote:T-o-m how you feel now,maybe like me? Do you feel weird?Do you think that everything is ok?
Welcome to nitpicking twiling zone.

I feel that things are ok, but that's why we have a community, for people to point out things that other people missed :)
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Well these map have quit simple graphic,and i dont see any problems,ofcourse i dont want to use microscope to find something. Well its not nice that in final you want to find some problems who is very dificulty to see.

I think this map has very simple graphics, and that is why i like it.
I dont personally see the need for the bottom line of the mountains to be removed because of the style of the map however i can take in to consideration that once this is quenched, like all maps, it's not really the map maker's map anymore, but the community's.
So in a way qwert, i 'know how you feel' on a low level, but its all down to opinion.
The difference between our feelings towards feedback is all down to an open/closed mind, and willingness to make things good for other people.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby Qwert on Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:40 pm

Mine apology if i whas wrong,for me is map ok,but if you think that yours oppinion is not worth,then you must to do what Mrbeen say. But its quit dificulty to fix something what you dont see.

Again soory for these mine post.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby t-o-m on Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:48 pm

qwert wrote:Mine apology if i whas wrong,for me is map ok,but if you think that yours oppinion is not worth,then you must to do what Mrbeen say. But its quit dificulty to fix something what you dont see.

Again soory for these mine post.

Oh that Mr. Been, what will he do next...

Dont be sorry, its just a difference of opinion, im just trying to get this as good as possible before its 'too late', if you know what i mean :)
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby wcaclimbing on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:16 pm

no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom has been permabanned.....
So, what happens to this map now? Does anyone know?

EDIT: if tom is willing to help out a bit, I could continue this thread, just copy/pasting whatever he wants his response to be and quoting it into this thread.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby oaktown on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:50 pm

wcaclimbing wrote: if tom is willing to help out a bit, I could continue this thread, just copy/pasting whatever he wants his response to be and quoting it into this thread.

I think that's exactly what has to happen. Just because tom can't post that doesn't stop him from making changes to the map - somebody will just have to take over the duties of running the thread.
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby Mjinga on Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:55 am

Does he have his psd back yet?
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:54 am

Here's an update from t-o-m:

t-o-m wrote:The coordinate images are the same because there were only minor touch ups and no army circles were moved or anything like that.
Just the images without the 88s.



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            <map>
               <title>Madagascar</title>
               <smallwidth>475</smallwidth>
                <smallheight>600</smallheight>
                <largewidth>571</largewidth>
                <largeheight>723</largeheight>
                <filetype>png</filetype>

                <continent>
                   <name>Toamasina</name>
                   <bonus>2</bonus>
                   <components>
                      <territory>A-M</territory>
                      <territory>Atsinanana</territory>
                      <territory>Analanjirofo</territory>
                   </components>
                </continent>

                   <continent>
                   <name>Antsiranana</name>
                   <bonus>1</bonus>
                   <components>
                      <territory>Diana</territory>
                      <territory>Sava</territory>
                   </components>
                </continent>

                   <continent>
                   <name>Mahajanga</name>
                   <bonus>3</bonus>
                   <components>
                      <territory>Sofia</territory>
                      <territory>Boeny</territory>
                      <territory>Betsiboka</territory>
                      <territory>Melaky</territory>
                    <territory>Mampikony</territory>
                   </components>
                </continent>

                <continent>
                   <name>Antananarivo</name>
                   <bonus>3</bonus>
                   <components>
                      <territory>Itasy</territory>
                      <territory>Betafo</territory>
                      <territory>Ankazobe</territory>
                      <territory>Bongolava</territory>
                   </components>
                </continent>

                   <continent>
                   <name>Toliara</name>
                   <bonus>4</bonus>
                   <components>
                      <territory>Menabe</territory>
                      <territory>Manja</territory>
                      <territory>Tulear</territory>
                      <territory>Androy</territory>
                    <territory>Anosy</territory>
                   </components>
                </continent>

                   <continent>
                   <name>Fianarantsoa</name>
                   <bonus>4</bonus>
                   <components>
                      <territory>Vato.</territory>
                      <territory>Farafangana</territory>
                      <territory>Ihorombe</territory>
                      <territory>Haute.</territory>
                    <territory>Ambosita</territory>
                   </components>
                </continent>


                <territory>
                   <name>Diana</name>
                   <borders>
                      <border>Sava</border>
                      <border>Sofia</border>
                   </borders>
                   <coordinates>
                     <smallx>381</smallx>
                     <smally>123</smally>
         <largex>456</largex>
         <largey>149</largey>


                   </coordinates>
                </territory>

                <territory>
                   <name>Sava</name>
                   <borders>
                      <border>Diana</border>
                      <border>Sofia</border>
                   </borders>
                   <coordinates>
                     <smallx>409</smallx>
                     <smally>155</smally>
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby OliverFA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:58 am

Looks like the map is ready to be quenched. Doesn't it?
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Re: Madagascar → [FF, XML] & {Final Images}

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:15 pm

              Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Madagascar Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!
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Re: Madagascar [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:32 pm

Congrats t-o-m :)
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Re: Madagascar [Quenched]

Postby OliverFA on Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:33 pm

Congratulations on having your map quenched t-o-m!!! =D>
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Re: Madagascar [Quenched]

Postby jiminski on Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:34 pm

yeah well done Tom. very nice job.
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Re: Madagascar [Quenched]

Postby hulmey on Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:43 pm

well done tommie boy :D
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Re: Madagascar [Quenched]

Postby samuelc812 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:59 pm

Why doesn't t-o-m have a medal for this??
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