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Postby supermarcol on Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:58 pm

I could change some of the ontario's regions name in white, or move them around a little. And to answer the question about points, its not just the number of region that counts, Ontario has less entry points than quebec, touches only 2 other provinces as opposed to 3 for quebec, and is way more linear which means its easier to conquer. The difference in troops is not that great. I had problems with nobody wanting to get ontario, but with the big ugly river it should fix that. Anyway, if after a couple of weeks of playing people find that its not well balanced, i can modify it. But I am more concerned about the territories than ontario. We'll see how it goes.
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Postby supermarcol on Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:03 pm

Ok folks, the Canada map is taking shape! This is where I am at now. I still need to do the large version. I know it gets a bit crazy in the southeast with all those places, but I think the large map will show it better. Anyway. Tell me what you think about it!
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Postby kingwaffles on Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:19 pm

Beautiful! I can't wait to play!
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Postby Marvaddin on Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:33 pm

Yeah, it seems good. Is this the small version?? :shock:

Hmm, the names of North Bay and Outaouais seem be only one.
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Postby Spiegelprime on Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:25 am

This map is sweet, I'm so excited for all these new maps!
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Postby thegrimsleeper on Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:34 am

I love what you've done with the number-dots. They really help to define the character of the map itself. I think this map has come a long way, and it's so close to completion.

If I could make one suggestion: The name sof the continents are still a little hard to read, and it's not very aesthetically pleasing to have different colors.

Are you using a program like Photoshop, where you can blur the text/layer? If so, I think you might do well to create a shadow onto which you could drop the white text. This would allow the names of all the countries to be easily read, as well as keeping them all nice and uniform.

Just my thoughts, other than that I can't wait to play on this map again.
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Postby supermarcol on Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:34 am

Yeah I'm having troubles with the names, I had to make them even smaller to fit the numbers in. I sadly can't add shadows to the names unless I do it manually :? and I already did the border of each country manually... it takes a while. I'll try to figure out a way to fix this, I'm thinking something along black edge and white filled names, that way you can see them on any country. I'm having a lot of midterms these days so I can't spend as much time as I want on this. Its not final yet. Still need to do the large one.
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Postby elebdae on Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:18 am

Do you still have the intenetion of puting a river between North Bay and Outaouais? It would be easier to hold Ontario, and the map would be a little more balanced...8)

GOOD JOB! And for the record, marcol did a plastic real version of this map ans we played it two weeks ago and it was awesome (and I won too :lol: )
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Postby supermarcol on Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:07 pm

no river between ontario and quebec, that would make quebec easier to hold. There is a river between the prairies and ontario though. So much sleeping to do and so little time to work on conquerclub map.
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Postby fishfleas on Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:18 pm

I like the map.... however.... the colors on the computer screen are a bit bright.... any way to tone it down? make the colors a bit more dull.... that way after hours of staring at what to do you dont' have headaches....


Also, my other suggestion would be, keep the territories within the "countries" the same color or at least alot closer in color than they are right now. As of right now it seems a bit too busy but I think you'll find if you take those color suggestions you'll be really happy with the results. :)
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Postby supermarcol on Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:26 pm

Hmmm I don't know. One thing I know is that I can't please everyone with this map. So if other people think its a problem then I'll go through the process of change the colors. But personally I like it this way, I find it has a "plastic" look. And I don't understand the people who say every province should have its regions in the same color, I mean its pretty obvious that they follow the same color scheme. Unless you are color blind you shouldn't have problem differenciating shades of red and shades of blue... But anyway, midterm tomorow so no updates tonight :mrgreen:
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Postby supermarcol on Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:27 pm

Ok, I think I found a combination that makes the map somewhat possible to read. Does this get your general approval or not?

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Postby kingwaffles on Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:46 pm

Looks great dude! I can't wait to play!
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Postby dagreatbroomhead on Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:15 pm

if this gets beta, i will have to get a premium account!
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Postby supermarcol on Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:27 pm

I'm almost done but I'll wait until I have one free spot to submit it :mrgreen: . It'll give me time to go through the xml and make sure everything is perfect.

[EDIT]I found 2 bugs in my xml already, people in nord du québec and thompson wouldn't have like me heh.
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Postby supermarcol on Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:06 am

Ok, if someone has a lot of time on their hand and don't know what to do, can you check through my xml and see if I did any mistakes? I don't expect anyone to do it, and I will do it a fourth time for sure before I submit it, but if you want to it would be great. The 2 things to watch for are missing countries and misspelled (or is it misspellt?) countries.

Heres the xml:
http://www.geocities.com/supermarcol/prog.txt
heres a copy of the map to look at:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/supermarcol/testlarge.png

It will be out there soon!
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Postby thegrimsleeper on Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:49 am

According to the XML...

1. Nova Scotia can attack New Brunswick, but not the other way around.

2. Kenora can attack Thompson, but not the other way around.

If there are any other errors in the borders, I'll eat my hat.

I would like to point out that I was only keeping my eyes peeled for the most glaring of spelling errors (or countries whose names had been misspellED), so unless someone else who's got 15 to spare wants to go through and quadruple-check things, I'd say this one's good.

Now if only I could motivate myself to finish the damn small version of the Europe map... :(
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Postby supermarcol on Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:29 am

Thanks a lot! Hah I made a mistake and gave the wrong version as a link, so that means you missed one :P nord du quebec and north bay i think. But I hadn't seen NB and nova scotia so thanks a lot!
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Postby Derwiddle on Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:50 am

Looks awesome! I can't wait to play it!

Great job supermarcol! :)
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Postby supermarcol on Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:19 pm

Well folks, its done. Its up to the man from upstairs now... 8)
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Postby amandahugandkiss on Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:28 pm

WhaT program did you use???

I'm taking your advice and working on an NYC map, but what should I use instead of paint, is it possible for me to hand draw the map then scan??? I can draw, I'm just not familiar with computer graphics programs
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Postby supermarcol on Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:34 pm

You could probably do this, but it would be hard to edit the map afterwards. One of my advantage is that I used one of these computer pen, so it was easier to draw the map. As for what program I used, I used flash... not a very good choice, I just happen to know how it works. What you want for a good mapmaking graphic editor is the ability to work with layers. You can do that in photoshop, its just that photoshop is hard to learn (i should have done my map in photoshop, but i was too lazy to learn it hah). It is possible to make your map in paint, but it would also be hard, and unless you spend a lot of time on it it wouldn't look very professional. My suggestion is the following: get yourself some :shock: illegal :shock: copy of photoshop, google for a basic tutorial or check if one is included and you should be able to start your map. I think that what is the most important is to get a sketch version up as soon as possible. When you actually post a map, however ugly or basic it is, you can start to receive advice from other users, and this will make your time much, much easier. But start by learning the basics of photoshop or another program like that, and then play around a bit with sketching your map.
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Postby thegrimsleeper on Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:24 am

Funny, I always found Photoshop to be fairly intuitive...

You really don't need to free-hand anything. I recommend just googling a map, then editing in Photoshop. Drawing with a mouse can be hard, but tracing is another story. Make sure you do this in a seperate layer from the background, so editing will be easier later.

You probably don't even need a full copy of Photoshop. I'm sure you can find a free trial on the internet somewhere. Another great program is JASC Paint Shop Pro.
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Postby supermarcol on Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:01 pm

Ok, for those who were complaining about the confusingness fo the canada map, I sent this new map to lack. I made everything more consitent and I took off the bubbles for the numbers. I hope it pleases all of you.

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Postby HighBorn on Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:31 pm

looks great super
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