France 1789

[ZeakCytho]

Gimil's a total featherweight, but I'm with him on this one

[pamoa]

where should be positioned the regions names ?

a. On the map ( see large map ) 4 vote
b. Around the minimap ( see small map ) 4 votes

Almost 50 / 50 ! I was hoping not having to choose. But as I have, it will be main map

v20 new features: region names

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graphic stamp?

[gimil]

Well done!

[pamoa]

YES !

I'll start XML coding

[cairnswk]

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Pamoa
Sorry but I'm on again about name and coordinate placement please, in some areas you've got great congestion which could be lessened with a little movement around, and make the maps looks so much better.
1. at the top of the large map i can't tell what the territory name is for red r33...is is artois or flanders...perhaps a line to indicate
2. it's all very congested around NORD...are you able to move that congestion out a little and give some space, perhaps even move the NORD name somewhere where it is less congested...there is all that real estate in Champagne
3. Same in Ouest
4. Gascogne - the tert name is split from the corrdinate by SUD yet there is plenty of real estate there so move SUD-OUEST north
5. you have some names sitting almost on top armies eg in Languedoc yet there is plenty of space to give them some breathing room.
6. there is nothing on your maps to denote "impassables"
7. is it possible to move name for Germanique and Alsace - swap....i think Alsace is too far away from it's coordinate
8. with 6 above can you try placing the title over in the left bottom corner closer to the compass/mini map grouping to see if it would look any better
9. small map is very cramped in Provence yet there is room for movement there, same with Dauphine
10. can you centre Sardaigne name better

[wcaclimbing]

Could you move the line that connects Corse to Nice just a bit? The top end of the line is really close to the Provence/Nice border, and I'd like it if the line were a bit more centered on Nice, not so close to the border.

Actually, I think I'd like it better if you just redrew both of the lines from Corse, to make them take a bit more of a direct path. I think that would look better than the ones you have now.

Other than that, no complaints from me. It looks good.

[pamoa]

v21 new features: texts and armies positions

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I tried to give more "space" without moving all armies. Their initial position correspond to the actual position of the main city of that region.

[pamoa]

XML sent to Forza AZ for checking.

Quenching data

map name: FRANCE 18th century

link to large image: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/France18thv21e.png

link to small image: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/pamoa_ch/France18thv21se.png

link to XML file: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/3/2172106/Fr18th.xml

[oaktown]

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-oaktown

[the.killing.44]

[pamoa]

THANKS

XML has been checked by Forza AZ and is OK,
next step quenching ?!

[oaktown]

XML has been checked by Forza AZ and is OK,
next step quenching ?!

XML has indeed been cleared... when I get a chance I will stare at the army coordinates before stamp the code, then if there are no additional issues that come up I'll send it upstairs.

[Ruben Cassar]

I know it was a 50-50 vote and that you had to make a decision but I still think the region names on the main map are a bad idea because they make the map too cluttered as it's already very busy.

Keep in mind that most people play on the small version. With the army numbers and region names the small version seems a bit too cluttered. Any chance you might move those region names to the mini map? Just a suggestion...

Also I'd shift the fleur-de-lys of Isle-de-France a bit higher so that it does not connect with the army numbers.

[oaktown]

I have a couple of questions about the map coordinates you've chosen.

First, Berry: it's good on the large map, but on the small map you've separated the count from the territory name quite a bit, I'm guessing to work around the region name. I might err in favor of putting the army counts in the more logical places since they are referred to during every turn ofevery game, and the region names only occasionally.

The next is Auvergne - was there a reason the army count is so far north and the title so far south, when there's nothing but white space in the center? Same can be said for the Champagne army count... basically, I think the map reads better in the southern half where you've kept the counts and titles closer together. A few of the counts in the north seem to be floating.

The name on "Poitou" is closer to the army count below it than it is to its own - casual folks like me could mis-deploy. A line from Aunis to its count might not hurt either, like the one you did up north.

I guess you've done about all you can with those little territories, and nice work keeping everything from bumping the borders.

As for Ruben's comment about the region titles: personally I prefer the region names on the map itself - it makes for easier play - but it may be the case that you can put some of the army coordinates in better positions if you took the region names off. Or, just don't worry about letting the numbers bump into the region names a bit.

[pamoa]

v21 new features: texts and armies positions

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