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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby oaktown on Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:34 am

This solution has been up for 48 hours without a complaint, so here's a small...

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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby e_i_pi on Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:00 am

Corrientes looks fine. People should get with the program ;)

The area around Para looks a little busy. Maybe:
Asuncion text down 1px
Asuncion army circles down 2px left 2px
Para text down 1px left 1-2px
1px outside stroke of about 35% lighten on Para text

that is the only part of this entire map I can see anything resembling a problem, but I wouldn't even call it a problem, just an opportunity for slight clarification.

By the way, how did you get those ripples around the continent? I've had trouble getting smooth strokes like that. Outside glow just doesn't seem to have the consistency along the line that I'm after
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby asl80 on Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:03 pm

good solution to corrientes and the arrows oak. subtle, clear, and they look nice too.
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby oaktown on Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:02 am

e_i_pi wrote:By the way, how did you get those ripples around the continent? I've had trouble getting smooth strokes like that. Outside glow just doesn't seem to have the consistency along the line that I'm after

I copied the path of the land and made it a bit larger and flattened some bits out, stroked it, then copied that path and stretched it and flattened it out, stroked it a bit lighter, etc. The first one or two were a bit of work because there were so many anchor points I had to knock most of them out to simplify it, but then it was easy.

I'll pay around with Paraguay a bit.
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby pamoa on Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:19 pm

e_i_pi wrote:By the way, how did you get those ripples around the continent? I've had trouble getting smooth strokes like that. Outside glow just doesn't seem to have the consistency along the line that I'm after

oaktown wrote:I copied the path of the land and made it a bit larger and flattened some bits out, stroked it, then copied that path and stretched it and flattened it out, stroked it a bit lighter, etc. The first one or two were a bit of work because there were so many anchor points I had to knock most of them out to simplify it, but then it was easy.

An easiest way of doing it, is to make a selection from the path of your coast.
Then select>modify>expand, choose the pixels of expansion.
You will get a smooth selection zone. Then edit>stroke.
and again expand and stroke... ;)
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby oaktown on Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:44 pm

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As suggested above, I've spaced things out in Paraguay a bit more... XML coordinates will be updated momentarily.
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Corrientes pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby oaktown on Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:06 am

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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Paraguay pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby MrBenn on Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:19 pm

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Re: War of the Triple Alliance; Paraguay pg. 12 [Final Forge]

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:25 pm

              Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the War of the Triple Alliance Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:20 pm

Congrats Oaktown =D> =D>
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby Incandenza on Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:46 am

Huzzah!
THOTA: dingdingdingdingdingdingBOOM

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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby pamoa on Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:32 am

well done =D> =D> =D>
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby enterprize on Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:49 pm

love the map.

Igatim (spelling?) is a bit illegible though.
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Jester's Review of WotTA

Postby j35t3r.us on Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:07 pm

My Review:

8/10

Pros:
Great map design.
Nice Tech w/ the Boat
Haven't played the same game twice.


Cons:
Couple balance issues.


Possible Fixes:

Drop Paraguay down to +2 bonus instead of +3?
Drop Argentina down to +5 bonus instead of +6?




Fun stuff!
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby Optimus Prime on Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:19 pm

Love this map. Won my first game on it and gameplay was great!
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby Limey Lyons on Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:47 pm

serious confusion with corrientes. what's with the impassable river running through it?
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:26 pm

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I've fielded two concerns about playability... the first came in-game, and was that the horizontal arrow from Asuncion gives the impression that it can attack entre rios, not Corrientes. The second is related, but unspecific...

Limey Lyons wrote:serious confusion with corrientes. what's with the impassable river running through it?

What I've done is extended the coloring over the river to span the river between the two halves of Corrientes, which geographically does span the river (there's just no accounting for real life). I've also turned the arrow a bit to make it clear that Asuncion does, indeed, attack Corrientes.

Hmm??
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:35 am

This map is looking so good! The Corientes river is still a bit of an issue though... I can't remember if you've tried it without the black borders over the river through the territory? That might help make it a bit clearer, and would make the name more visible...
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby pamoa on Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:29 am

I know it will hurt some geographically correct mind but why not remove one part of it and enlarge either Entre Rios or Tucuman
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:17 am

pamoa wrote:I know it will hurt some geographically correct mind but why not remove one part of it and enlarge either Entre Rios or Tucuman

That would certainly be the easiest fix, but I'd like to make that a move of last resort. So far I've heard only two complaints so I'm hoping it's not huge issue.

MrBenn wrote:I can't remember if you've tried it without the black borders over the river through the territory? That might help make it a bit clearer, and would make the name more visible...

Tried it, people didn't like it. I can go back to it, however. Here it is, from version 23.

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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:05 pm

oaktown wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I can't remember if you've tried it without the black borders over the river through the territory? That might help make it a bit clearer, and would make the name more visible...

Tried it, people didn't like it. I can go back to it, however. Here it is, from version 23.

That was me not explaining what I meant very well... What if the river banks weren't marked with a solid line? ie. the river could be whiter, but without the solid lines between the land and river
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:35 pm

MrBenn wrote:That was me not explaining what I meant very well... What if the river banks weren't marked with a solid line? ie. the river could be whiter, but without the solid lines between the land and river

Or you explained it fine, but i read what I wanted to read.

Anyway, tried taking the lines out as well at one point, but it looked unfinished... as is the lines are lighter, hopefully enough to not suggest borders.
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby Limey Lyons on Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:32 pm

a small bridge perhaps?
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:45 pm

Limey Lyons wrote:a small bridge perhaps?

also tried, several pages back. The trouble with the bridge is that usually bridges connect two territories on CC maps, which is not he case here. We can do any of these things... I'll play around with it more tonight.
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Re: War of the Triple Alliance: edit on p 14 [Quenched]

Postby oaktown on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:06 pm

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OK, this one I think I like. I've put Corrientes together with the borders spanning the river, left the river the color it should be (no more half-assed shading) and given the river softer banks within the territory.

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