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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 10

Postby sailorseal on Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:34 pm

It says the image has been moved or deleted
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 10

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:38 pm

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there's the most recent image, plus bumpin' onto latest page
i really can't find anything here, although i liked the "scale," even though i understand why you took it off. Maybe just "size scale?"
and I agree with ed on the between. "Bonuses for holding railroads connecting cities" would be better, IMO.

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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 10

Postby cairnswk on Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:19 pm

oaktown, an observation if I may...the middle of the book gives the impression of some curvature to the page, but this doesn't follow through on the actual map. The map in the middle of the page in some places needs slightly more curve on the borders and rail lines and text names to flow into the "crease" rather than appear as a transparent overlay sitting on top of the pages. Particularly with the edges being so thick, the crease would be rather deep.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 10

Postby edbeard on Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:00 pm

if you don't want "Connect the cities with rail lines" then how about...


Hold each territory with the city and the rail territories *

a. in between
b. which connect them
c. other

I like option b. myself

I think this is an important case because if we have no text, many people would know what to do (but some wouldn't). Whereas if we have poorly worded text, many of these people (either those who would or wouldn't figure it out without text) will become confused because of the wording.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 10

Postby a.sub on Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:57 pm

Hold two train stations and the states that connect them to receive the bonus
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 10

Postby oaktown on Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:55 pm

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edbeard wrote:if you don't want "Connect the cities with rail lines" ...

Actually, I think that sounds fine; in fact, this is how I had it weeks ago, but somebody complained. And we aren't supposed to be using the word "territories" any more. :roll: Anyway, I hope the new language - and the addition of city dots on the rail example below the text - help matters.

The only other change I've made here is putting the rail lines behind the territory ( :-$) titles.

As there have been no other gameplay concerns for weeks (months?) I'm going to begin the work of making the image look like it bends in at the crease.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:10 pm

I agree - bending at the crease is pretty much the only thing this map could have to improve it. I imagine it being a painstaking affair - the N of Nepal will be tricky.

Fantastic idea and style.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby oaktown on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:38 am

DJ Teflon wrote:I agree - bending at the crease is pretty much the only thing this map could have to improve it. I imagine it being a painstaking affair - the N of Nepal will be tricky.

Actually I just thought I'd group all of the layers on the surface of the page, duplicate them and split them left and right, then distort the inner edges a smidge. It'll just take five minutes, but as I make future changes it'll require a redo, so it would be best if this is the last thing I have to do.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby oaktown on Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:33 pm

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Here's a quick example of what the map will look like with some warping at the center crease. What I've done is grouped all of the layers that represent images printed on the page, duplicated the layers and split them left/right, warped the inner 1/8th inch or so, and brought them back together. Like I said, five minutes.

I think I may have overdone it just a bit for the first go, but I wanted to give an example. Something will have to be done to make Raipuer more readable, but everything else seems to work pretty well. I think the center of the page actually needs more grunge/shadow to sell the effect.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby a.sub on Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:09 pm

i think you should give the whoel thing a slight curve, so the tips ae bent up and the crease is bent down to make it look less like an error
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby Teflon Kris on Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:54 am

I think the effect looks great, spot on.

I can see other cartograpers following your lead with the bookstylefor other old/ fantasy maps.

Do you thin the colours may have faded/bleached slightly over the years? Minor point.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby TaCktiX on Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:50 pm

Cool effect, but I can't read Raipur, Nepal, and Circars that well any more. Any chance of moving text or otherwise reducing the amount of warp on the text we might need to play the map well? :D
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby oaktown on Sat May 02, 2009 8:02 pm

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TaCktiX wrote:Cool effect, but I can't read Raipur, Nepal, and Circars that well any more. Any chance of moving text or otherwise reducing the amount of warp on the text we might need to play the map well? :D

Hope this version is cleaner. Didn't move Nepal because, well, it's not a part of the playable map and I just forgot.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby lgoasklucyl on Sat May 02, 2009 9:03 pm

oaktown wrote:
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TaCktiX wrote:Cool effect, but I can't read Raipur, Nepal, and Circars that well any more. Any chance of moving text or otherwise reducing the amount of warp on the text we might need to play the map well? :D

Hope this version is cleaner. Didn't move Nepal because, well, it's not a part of the playable map and I just forgot.


This is looking great Oak.

Excellent idea on how to make that crease work well.

Perhaps a quick step-by-step with pictures for the sake of us peons would be awesome O:)
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby samuelc812 on Sun May 03, 2009 12:11 am

Well oaktown, i've looked very hard at this map for 10-15 mins trying to find something i can pick at. But i can honestly say that i can't find anything :-k The graphics are superb, and i can't find anything that needs changing. I think you're very close to a Graphics Stamp ;) Well Done :)
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