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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby Merker on Sun May 03, 2009 12:50 am

Actually, it is Empress Victoria, the first ever empress of India. Although she did reign as Queen of the British Empire. I'm picky like that, :) .
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby oaktown on Sun May 03, 2009 11:08 am

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Here's a small map, just for kicks. 630 x 542 pixels.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby gimil on Sun May 03, 2009 11:10 am

Here is a graphics stamp, just for kicks to!

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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sun May 03, 2009 12:40 pm

lol congrats oak. honestly i can't see any problems. I wanna play it right now
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby WidowMakers on Sun May 03, 2009 12:56 pm

Hey oak. How did you do the RR tracks?
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby porkenbeans on Sun May 03, 2009 1:10 pm

I agree with sam, I can NOT find anything to pick at.
You are in my opinion, CCs' best asset, when it comes to maps.
I like all of your maps, and this one looks to be one of your best.
You will always have a standing invitation to come work with us at "The Mapmakers Guild". ;)
To anyone out there that is in to organizing tournaments, I would suggest an Oaktown turny, with all the oaktown maps. :D
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby oaktown on Sun May 03, 2009 1:46 pm

porkenbeans wrote:I agree with sam, I can NOT find anything to pick at.
You are in my opinion, CCs' best asset, when it comes to maps.
I like all of your maps, and this one looks to be one of your best.
You will always have a standing invitation to come work with us at "The Mapmakers Guild". ;)
To anyone out there that is in to organizing tournaments, I would suggest an Oaktown turny, with all the oaktown maps. :D

Shh! Maybe I have it I mind to do this myself, but not just yet! :-$

WidowMakers wrote:Hey oak. How did you do the RR tracks?

Cairnswk gets credit for turning me on to a RR track brush... it's back in this thread somewhere. It opened my eyes to the "shape dynamics" option for brush tips.
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Re: British India - I'm back! page 4

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun May 03, 2009 1:55 pm

cairnswk wrote:oaktown
if you're using PS3, there is railway line brush available at
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/i ... id=1044414

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EDIT: holy shit i downloaded it and that's awesome!
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP) page 11

Postby barterer2002 on Sun May 03, 2009 2:37 pm

porkenbeans wrote:To anyone out there that is in to organizing tournaments, I would suggest an Oaktown turny, with all the oaktown maps. :D


Oh, that's a great idea. After this one is out of Beta though I think I'll work on it. Unless someone beats me to it.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP, GX) page 11

Postby whitestazn88 on Sun May 03, 2009 3:36 pm

here for the final map review oaky.

i've been a big fan of this since day one, so i don't really have much to say, other than i'm happy with the final product and it took a little longer than i thought it would to get to this stage. the graphics are beautiful in my opinion, as well as clever and original.

the one concern i have is the territory "ahmed." if it stands for something, is it going to be put somewhere on the map? and in terms of attacking and deployment, is it going to be named "ahmed" or is the longer name going to be used (for example, in the british isles 2 map, the territ labeled oxon is actually oxsfordshire or something like that, and thats the name you have to choose when you attack). i'm just afraid that if the name is lengthened in the attack/reinforce phase, that people might get confused if its not marked on the map that "ahmed." stands for something longer
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP, GX) page 11

Postby oaktown on Sun May 03, 2009 4:37 pm

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Small map with 3-digit coordinates, in case anybody was concerned. XML seems to check out.

Whitestazn: I had forgotten all about the abbreviated territory until I started the code this afternoon. The full territory name is Ahmedabad, which I think will be alright. I image users willbe able to cue off the first five letters which are on the map, and there is no other territory similar. In fact, the only two other territories that even begin with the letter "A" are all the way across the map. Hope this works for everybody.
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP, GX) page 11

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun May 03, 2009 4:48 pm

Is "Afghanistan" purposely "Afganistan" (minus the h)?
there are a couple issues with the 888 but i'll get to 'em in FF ;)

I got nothing here. Incredible =D>
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP, GX) page 11

Postby oaktown on Sun May 03, 2009 4:59 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:Is "Afghanistan" purposely "Afganistan" (minus the h)?

Um, would you believe me if I said that yes, it is on purpose?

I was using old spellings of some regions, but I think that one is just a mistake. Easy fix.

And because some people like this kind of thing...

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
   <title>Indian Empire</title>
   <smallwidth>630</smallwidth>
   <smallheight>542</smallheight>
   <largewidth>840</largewidth>
   <largeheight>723</largeheight>
   <filetype>jpg</filetype>

   <continent>
      <name>Northern Frontier</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kafiristan</territory>
         <territory>Cashmere</territory>
         <territory>Punjab</territory>
         <territory>Multan</territory>
         <territory>Sirhind</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Bengal Presidency</name>
      <bonus>8</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Garhwal</territory>
         <territory>Delhi</territory>   
         <territory>Rajpootana</territory>
         <territory>Malwa</territory>
         <territory>Oude</territory>
         <territory>Doab</territory>
         <territory>Behar</territory>
         <territory>Calcutta</territory>
         <territory>Bengal</territory>
         <territory>Assam</territory>
         <territory>Sikkim</territory>
         </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Bombay Presidency</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Sindh</territory>
         <territory>Cutch</territory>
         <territory>Kathiawar</territory>
         <territory>Ahmedabad</territory>
         <territory>Konkan</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Central Provinces</name>
      <bonus>4</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Central Indian Agency</territory>
         <territory>Nagpur</territory>
         <territory>Bustar</territory>
         <territory>Raipur</territory>
         <territory>Orissa</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Madras Presidency</name>
      <bonus>5</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Kandeish</territory>
         <territory>Bejapoor</territory>
         <territory>Hyderabad</territory>
         <territory>Mysore</territory>
         <territory>Carnatic</territory>
         <territory>Malabar Coast</territory>
         <territory>Ceylon</territory>
         <territory>Coromandel Coast</territory>
         <territory>Circars</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   
   <continent>
      <name>Farther India</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Upper Burma</territory>
         <territory>Shan States</territory>
         <territory>Mandalay</territory>
         <territory>Arracan</territory>
         <territory>Pegu</territory>
         <territory>Tenasserim</territory>
         <territory>Andaman Islands</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   
   <continent>
      <name>Madras - Bombay Railway</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Coromandel Coast</territory>
         <territory>Mysore</territory>
         <territory>Bejapoor</territory>
         <territory>Konkan</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>
   
   <continent>
      <name>Bombay - Calcutta Railway</name>
      <bonus>5</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Konkan</territory>
         <territory>Kandeish</territory>
         <territory>Nagpur</territory>
         <territory>Central Indian Agency</territory>
         <territory>Behar</territory>
         <territory>Calcutta</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Delhi - Calcutta Railway</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Delhi</territory>
         <territory>Doab</territory>
         <territory>Behar</territory>
         <territory>Calcutta</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>


   <territory>
      <name>Kafiristan</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Cashmere</border>
         <border>Punjab</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>172</smallx>
         <smally>69</smally>
         <largex>230</largex>
         <largey>85</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Cashmere</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kafiristan</border>
         <border>Punjab</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>233</smallx>
         <smally>98</smally>
         <largex>311</largex>
         <largey>122</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Punjab</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kafiristan</border>
         <border>Cashmere</border>
         <border>Sirhind</border>
         <border>Multan</border>
         <border>Rajpootana</border>
         <border>Garhwal</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>139</smallx>
         <smally>138</smally>
         <largex>187</largex>
         <largey>177</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Multan</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Sindh</border>
         <border>Punjab</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>97</smallx>
         <smally>171</smally>
         <largex>130</largex>
         <largey>221</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   <territory>
      <name>Sirhind</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Punjab</border>
         <border>Garhwal</border>
         <border>Delhi</border>
         <border>Rajpootana</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>175</smallx>
         <smally>142</smally>
         <largex>235</largex>
         <largey>182</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   
   <territory>
      <name>Garhwal</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Punjab</border>
         <border>Delhi</border>
         <border>Oude</border>
         <border>Sirhind</border>            
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>247</smallx>
         <smally>139</smally>
         <largex>330</largex>
         <largey>178</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
   
   <territory>
      <name>Delhi</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Garhwal</border>
         <border>Sirhind</border>
         <border>Rajpootana</border>
         <border>Oude</border>
         <border>Doab</border>            
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>208</smallx>
         <smally>161</smally>
         <largex>278</largex>
         <largey>207</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Rajpootana</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Delhi</border>
         <border>Doab</border>
         <border>Malwa</border>
         <border>Sindh</border>
         <border>Punjab</border>
         <border>Sirhind</border>
         <border>Ahmedabad</border>            
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>157</smallx>
         <smally>219</smally>
         <largex>210</largex>
         <largey>284</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Malwa</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Rajpootana</border>
         <border>Doab</border>         
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>229</smallx>
         <smally>251</smally>
         <largex>307</largex>
         <largey>327</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Doab</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Delhi</border>
         <border>Malwa</border>
         <border>Rajpootana</border>
         <border>Oude</border>
         <border>Behar</border>
         <border>Central Indian Agency</border>         
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>262</smallx>
         <smally>217</smally>
         <largex>350</largex>
         <largey>282</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Oude</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Garhwal</border>
         <border>Delhi</border>
         <border>Doab</border>
         <border>Behar</border>         
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>282</smallx>
         <smally>172</smally>
         <largex>377</largex>
         <largey>222</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Behar</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Oude</border>
         <border>Doab</border>
         <border>Sikkim</border>
         <border>Bengal</border>
         <border>Assam</border>
         <border>Calcutta</border>
         <border>Central Indian Agency</border>         
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>379</smallx>
         <smally>211</smally>
         <largex>507</largex>
         <largey>274</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Sikkim</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Behar</border>      
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>404</smallx>
         <smally>180</smally>
         <largex>539</largex>
         <largey>233</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>
      
   <territory>
      <name>Calcutta</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Arracan</border>
         <border>Behar</border>
         <border>Central Indian Agency</border>
         <border>Orissa</border>      
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>376</smallx>
         <smally>273</smally>
         <largex>502</largex>
         <largey>357</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>   

   <territory>
      <name>Bengal</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Assam</border>
         <border>Upper Burma</border>
         <border>Arracan</border>
         <border>Behar</border>         
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>448</smallx>
         <smally>242</smally>
         <largex>599</largex>
         <largey>315</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>   

   <territory>
      <name>Assam</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Behar</border>
         <border>Bengal</border>
         <border>Upper Burma</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>469</smallx>
         <smally>203</smally>
         <largex>626</largex>
         <largey>264</largey>

      </coordinates>
   </territory>   

   <territory>
      <name>Sindh</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Multan</border>
         <border>Rajpootana</border>
         <border>Cutch</border>         
      </borders>
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP, GX) page 11

Postby alexandrois on Mon May 04, 2009 1:51 am

this map is amazing, the only fault i've managed to find with it is, why isn't there some sea rout across the bay of bengal, without one it will take a long time to get from one side to the other
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Re: Indian Empire (D, GP, GX) page 11

Postby barterer2002 on Mon May 04, 2009 1:28 pm

Oak, I've been thinking about this one for a day now. Most of my concerns have already been discussed but the big one that just bugs me is the ability to fortify 4 terts and get both a continent and a railroad (Madras Presidency and Madras-Bombay). As I think about it, I'm led to a previous discussion about the bonuses of Calcutta-Delhi and I'm less and less convinced that the railroads are a positive on this map-at least from a gameplay perspective. Essentially what we've got is 3 railroad bonuses-2 of which will essentially add to a continent bonus and do little else.

I understand that mapmakers really like to have unique gameplay in their maps as it makes it interesting for them but I also understand that there are large numbers of players who prefer to have just standard maps without any gimmicky gameplay. Obviously I'm coming in late to this discussion but I'd like to go on record as questioning whether the railroads add anything positive to the playability of the map-other than just as a gimmick. I'd personally like to see the map without railroad bonuses (they clearly can stay graphically speaking) but I understand if you want to keep them in.
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