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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby jiminski on Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:59 am

Perhaps if Marv were to relinquish his veto RJ might be more predisposed towards rejoining the process.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby rebelman on Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:40 am

no offense on all the others but it looks like this site has lost its greatest map maker, this could easily have been avoided. The blame for this is not marvaddin's - it lays solely with team cc for the way that this and other events have been handled - hopefully rj's actions will be a wake up call although right now i am fairly pessimistic :(
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby jiminski on Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:20 am

rebelman wrote:no offense on all the others but it looks like this site has lost its greatest map maker, this could easily have been avoided. The blame for this is not marvaddin's - it lays solely with team cc for the way that this and other events have been handled - hopefully rj's actions will be a wake up call although right now i am fairly pessimistic :(



hmmm i have been resisting replying to this, as bickering is not helpful in resolving this! But what is to lose really... some of the most beautiful and progressive maps ever to grace these forums have been taken away from us... and likely will not be back!

So, although the set-up of the competition (Agreement on veto etc and also the taking of the images to a broader vote) may have been a fairly major mistake.

If you give a jealous lover a gun, you may share culpability when he shoots his beautiful wife!... But the chap who pulls the trigger should take his share too!
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby max is gr8 on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:15 pm

Something Has Happened to the pictures
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby amazzony on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:44 pm

max is gr8 wrote:Something Has Happened to the pictures


Yep, Rj took them down because he has stopped the revamping for now.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby Mjinga on Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:57 pm

pamoa wrote:Sound bit like a vulture call over a fresh dead body, not very delicate from you Mjinga [-X
At least could you ask the question without putting the image!
I thought it might seem that way, hence why I said:
I realise that this may seem like an unfeeling moment to say this, with respect to RJ, but...
and gave the reason why I thought it should be said anyway:
As I really really do not like marvaddin's one... no offence to him.


I’m not circling, I just see no reason why someone cannot take over for RJ. I presume he means what he says about leaving over with maps. If I left the foundry, I would mean it, and not come back. Therefore, why not get someone else to take over as soon as possible? It’s efficient.

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I absolutely agree with you: I would rather see Oaktown pick it up than me. I did, however assume from his post that he was unwilling to work with the marvaddin veto and was therefore unlikely to try. I am willing to work within the veto, and I humbly put forth the opinion that this map, however inadequate compared to the other finalists, is better than the original.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:21 am

Poke.

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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:15 am

I have an update almost ready to post. I've reworked the borders so they are flat. Marv wanted me to use this skeletal map, which I did. I hope to post the update soon, just been really busy with work.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:16 am

RjBeals wrote:I have an update almost ready to post. I've reworked the borders so they are flat. Marv wanted me to use this skeletal map, which I did. I hope to post the update soon, just been really busy with work.


Christ - the map veto knows NO bounds.

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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [I, GP]

Postby Tisha on Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:55 am

Marvaddin wrote:
Other comments:
- In fact, I like the map borders.


what about this back on page three? that was the included in the last post he had made in the thread..

your map is beautiful..by the way.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:31 pm

Tisha wrote:
Marvaddin wrote:
Other comments:
- In fact, I like the map borders.


what about this back on page three? that was the included in the last post he had made in the thread..

your map is beautiful..by the way.


We've been communicating via PM. That's where he asked me to change the borders.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:33 am

Does anyone know if the accent marks on Brazil territories need to be there if the letters are all capitalized?

Like that little "c" with the tail in Foz do Iguaçu
Would the little tail still be on the Capital "C"?
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby yeti_c on Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:52 am

Is there such a glyph available?

I would suggest that it is not needed - as the accent should still apply capitalised of not?

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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby ZeakCytho on Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:49 pm

Not sure how accents work in Portuguese, but you'd keep the accent in French for sure.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby oaktown on Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:53 pm

RjBeals wrote:Does anyone know if the accent marks on Brazil territories need to be there if the letters are all capitalized?

Like that little "c" with the tail in Foz do Iguaçu
Would the little tail still be on the Capital "C"?

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Latin capital letter C with cedilla
U+00C7

Don't know what the convention is, but the character does exist.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:42 pm

figured as much.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby edbeard on Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:26 pm

what's the story on this?

I think basically everybody except Marvaddin would be OK with a graphics stamp for this save possibly a couple minor issues


Is there border redrawing that "needs" to be done or is that in the past?
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:26 pm

Well I redrew the borders, but haven't posted the update yet. I stated working on getting the correct spellings in, but my font was all capitals - so i was struggling with that a bit. I'll get around to it.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby nature on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:49 am

Hello! Well, I'm new here in the game, but I saw this topic and wanted to help. I am brasilian, and any doubts just ask to me. :D

Just answering, the cedilha is never capitalized, cause it can't be used as the first letter of the word. But, even when all the letters are capitalized you need to keep the accent marks. So, Foz do Iguaçu and São Luiz continue to be FOZ DO IGUAÇU and SÃO LUIZ. The accent marks are very important in portuguese, in the writing and in the pronounce, so plz, if possible, write then in the map. ;)

I'm going to look both maps again and give a opinion. :D
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:58 pm

nature wrote:Hello! Well, I'm new here in the game, but I saw this topic and wanted to help. I am brasilian, and any doubts just ask to me. :D

Just answering, the cedilha is never capitalized, cause it can't be used as the first letter of the word. But, even when all the letters are capitalized you need to keep the accent marks. So, Foz do Iguaçu and São Luiz continue to be FOZ DO IGUAÇU and SÃO LUIZ. The accent marks are very important in portuguese, in the writing and in the pronounce, so plz, if possible, write then in the map. ;)

I'm going to look both maps again and give a opinion. :D


Thanks so much nature. Very helpful.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:30 pm

i really like this revamp, the old graphics were a little lacking, but these graphics are stunning 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby captainwalrus on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:09 pm

What are the non crossing borders supposed to be? They don't really look like anything now.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby RjBeals on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:20 pm

captainwalrus wrote:What are the non crossing borders supposed to be? They don't really look like anything now.


Just think lines. They are not supposed to represent anything.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby happy2seeyou on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:20 pm

I hardly ever support map revamps, but I really like this newer version of Brazil. Good job!
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP (Borders Again? pg-6) [I, GP]

Postby bryguy on Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:27 pm

happy2seeyou wrote:I hardly ever support map revamps, but I really like this newer version of Brazil. Good job!



who doesnt like a map that improves the brazil map?

1) Some places the borders go past where they are supposed to, and at others for some reason they seem pixely
2) Some names are a little hard to read
3) I dont really care for how the Non-Crossing Borders and mini-map take up mostly vertical space. Have you thought of putting them in a box maybe? or maybe moving the Non-Crossing Borders into the lower left corner between the mini-map and the outer border?


I cant think of anything else than that, its a great map!
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