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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:12 am

RjBeals wrote:here's a previous draft.. like this?

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LIke that but the orange on the outside rather than the green... So the line would read orange green orange or whatever colors stood out more.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby Bruceswar on Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:14 am

You could use the same color of orange you used in the B on the Brazil heading. Sad to see you are unofficially retired from making maps. :( I love the ones you made and wish more were coming!
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby karelpietertje on Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:34 am

Bruceswar wrote:To better get my point across... Say you are driving down the road, and you see Billboards along side it.

This one
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and this one
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Which one are you more likely to notice?

Personally most would notice the one first with contrasting colors. Same reason Open Signs are Blue and Red etc etc. I think you get the point.


duhh the Heineken billboard is way bigger... so you're saying the legend of the impassables should be made super-big?

lol just kidding :P
you're argument is a true one though. and what's the point in having a legend if it's not seeable?
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby jiminski on Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:07 am

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here use this one Bruce.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby RjBeals on Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:18 am

](*,)
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby jiminski on Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:24 am

RjBeals wrote:](*,)



hahah sorry RJ, FFS just ignore Bruce.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby RjBeals on Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:28 am

jiminski wrote:
RjBeals wrote:](*,)



hahah sorry RJ, FFS just ignore Bruce.


Well, some foundry members do accept all feedback, not that you could tell from the debate in General Discussion right now. ;)
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby jiminski on Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:29 am

RjBeals wrote:
jiminski wrote:
RjBeals wrote:](*,)



hahah sorry RJ, FFS just ignore Bruce.


Well, some foundry members do accept all feedback, not that you could tell from the debate in General Discussion right now. ;)



i fixed it above for you RJ ...

i pass over the copyright for my artwork to you!
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby thenobodies80 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:38 am

Bruceswar wrote:To better get my point across... Say you are driving down the road, and you see Billboards along side it.

This one
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and this one
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Which one are you more likely to notice?

Personally most would notice the one first with contrasting colors. Same reason Open Signs are Blue and Red etc etc. I think you get the point.


RjBeals wrote:(EDIT) I get the point sure, but sometimes hard contrast doesn't fit well into the artistic theme of a map


I'm not a advertising man in real life, but i think that your images and the RJ answer are saying the same thing:

The first image is intentionally (like the map) less flashy.
The creators want that you'll see the beer first and then you'll see the wonderful big hand trying to take it.
In the map you'll see the impassable in a second and then you will search what they mean in the rest of the map.
The impassable text is visible, so you'll find the borders, a bit camouflaged in the trees.
The second image you posted is obviously more flashy.
But if RJ will change the colors, the actual problem is only reversed on the map, like in the orange or yellow example.
Visible on legend, horrible on map.

I'm of the opinion that is better to spend a second searching the impassable explaination than destroy the actual wonderful look of this map.

The map is perfect !
Nice work RJ! =D>

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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby mibi on Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:35 am

I think the current borders do an effective job of identifying themselves as impassibles as well as fit in with the aethetic of the map. Any brighter or more contrasted and you will have ruined the delicate balance that RJ has created here.

Take it from me, a world famous graphic designer. :twisted:
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby sully800 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:56 am

Yeah, the current impassables look great BECAUSE they match the color of the background and therefore fit with the theme. Making them really bright to stand out from everything else would indeed make them more noticeable and it would also look really bad.

The saving grace here is that there is no other thick bold line on the map except for the impassables, so there is nothing to confuse them with. Even if you can't see the colors properly they are very distinct from everything else on the map itself so they don't need to be changed.

The one thing that COULD be changed is the legend for the impassables, because in that instance it does blend into the background. But since I am of the opinion that you shouldn't even need to include such a legend on simple maps where its obvious that the objects are impassable, I personally don't think this needs to be changed.
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby jiminski on Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:01 am

mibi wrote:I think the current borders do an effective job of identifying themselves as impassibles as well as fit in with the aethetic of the map. Any brighter or more contrasted and you will have ruined the delicate balance that RJ has created here.

Take it from me, a world famous graphic designer. :twisted:



Preposterous! if you cast your eye above, i have carefully and subtly blended the new impassables to create the perfect synergy of the essential nature of Brasil with the aesthetic gestalt nuance of form and colour!
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby Tisha on Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:08 am

Bruce =;

i love them green, and there is so much land color between the impassables and the trees.. i don't see how they can be mistaken for anything else :?
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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby dolomite13 on Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:16 pm

Please don;t change the impassable border colors, They look fantastic as does the rest of this map. It is quite obvious that the borders are thick and thus denoting that you cannot cross the border.

I really love this revamp.

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Re: [Official] Brazil REVAMP [Beta]

Postby jiminski on Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:32 pm

dolomite13 wrote:Please don;t change the impassable border colors, They look fantastic as does the rest of this map. It is quite obvious that the borders are thick and thus denoting that you cannot cross the border.

I really love this revamp.

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i think you are safe dol. ; )
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