RjBeals wrote:and putting the title in any colour that is not in the flag.
You could be in trouble!!
C.
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RjBeals wrote:and putting the title in any colour that is not in the flag.
yeti_c wrote:RjBeals wrote:and putting the title in any colour that is not in the flag.
You could be in trouble!!
C.
jiminski wrote:this is an awful waste of one of the most stunning maps i've ever seen.
oaktown wrote:It would seem that this revamp project, which began over two months ago with so much promise, has died a tragic and untimely death. My thoughts...
As somebody who spent many hours making my own revamp entry - twice - I am personally saddened by what seems to be the end of this effort, and I suspect I'm not alone. A lot of folks other than RjBeals have spent a good deal of time on this project, including gimil, the dozen or so folks who made an entry, and the hundreds of CC users who discussed and voted during the competition. We've all been let down.
As a CA, I've learned a lesson from the failure of this process. If we're going to launch a revamp in the future we need to do so with the full support of the mapmaker. Giving marvaddin "the right to veto anything on the artistic side" was a mistake, as was allowing a process to proceed in which one individual had the power to veto anything and everything. This process never had marvaddin's support, only a reticent nod of approval.
As a member of the Foundry community I've said on many occasions that we mapmakers are a pretty ego-centric lot. You see it in the way that we deal with foundry newbs, and here we're seeing it in the way that we deal with each other. Marvaddin has legitimate concern about the presentation of his country, and Rj has a legitimate argument for why his way looks better. Somewhere in between there lies an answer that will make this revamp a reality.
The direction that this project has taken leaves a bad taste in my mouth... kinda tastes like Caipirinha. And that ain't good.
rebelman wrote:no offense on all the others but it looks like this site has lost its greatest map maker, this could easily have been avoided. The blame for this is not marvaddin's - it lays solely with team cc for the way that this and other events have been handled - hopefully rj's actions will be a wake up call although right now i am fairly pessimistic
max is gr8 wrote:Something Has Happened to the pictures
I thought it might seem that way, hence why I said:pamoa wrote:Sound bit like a vulture call over a fresh dead body, not very delicate from you Mjinga
At least could you ask the question without putting the image!
and gave the reason why I thought it should be said anyway:I realise that this may seem like an unfeeling moment to say this, with respect to RJ, but...
As I really really do not like marvaddin's one... no offence to him.
I absolutely agree with you: I would rather see Oaktown pick it up than me. I did, however assume from his post that he was unwilling to work with the marvaddin veto and was therefore unlikely to try. I am willing to work within the veto, and I humbly put forth the opinion that this map, however inadequate compared to the other finalists, is better than the original.edbeard wrote: if we're going to go with a different one, might as well use one of the other two finalists
RjBeals wrote:I have an update almost ready to post. I've reworked the borders so they are flat. Marv wanted me to use this skeletal map, which I did. I hope to post the update soon, just been really busy with work.
Marvaddin wrote:
Other comments:
- In fact, I like the map borders.
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