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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:06 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:Why are there two territories per shire? Is that just to double the size of the map? Or is there something historical behind it?

Edit: Forgot to mention that the graphics look very nice :)

It's mainly to create a playable number of territories, although it's partly a play on the dual-languages - all road signs are in Welsh/English...
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Re: Wales v3

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:32 pm

sweet image... now we know whats up
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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:41 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:sweet image... now we know whats up

Thanks ;-)
I rotated the map ever so slightly to get a better fit, but not too much to make it look overtly wonky...
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Re: Wales v3

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:57 pm

Thanks for letting me view the map!

I like it, it's a nice twist on a classic map too. The duel territories is a neat-o idea. Usually I end up comenting on maps that I never intendt to play, but this one I will.
The compass doesn't appear to be pointing staight up. Pointing more to true North, aye?

What's the reason that Flint doesn't have any armies? No room? or...
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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:01 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:a)The compass doesn't appear to be pointing staight up. Pointing more to true North, aye?
b)What's the reason that Flint doesn't have any armies? No room? or...

a) I've rotated the map a bit to get a better fit.
b) The small bit labelled Flint, is an exclave of 'Sir y Fflint'/Flint, which does have army numbers in it... I'll have to think of something to solve this anomoly... In the Europe map, I just tweaked the borders to get rid of the exclaves - I might try and do the same here??
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Re: Wales v3

Postby cairnswk on Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:13 pm

You've moved from start to almost finish...well done. i like the old-fashioned look you've given it. :)
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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:29 am

Thanks Cairns.

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Re: Wales v3

Postby foregone on Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:38 am

To make your shameless bump worthwhile, heh.

Its looks great, love the style. Now for the negative(ish):

The dragon can be touched up just a little. I get that you're going for a handpainted watercolour thing there but it could just be touched up a little.
A couple of the armynumbers overlap borders at the top of the map. This makes it hard to see the numbers. Possibly just a slight shift over?

I know I never replied to you earlier about this (and I may just be a little slower than the other kids in the class) but I'm still not sure how the shires will work. Can a territory which borders the northern part of a shire attack the double shire at the bottom? Maybe just explain the way in which this will function to me in small words.

Again, looking really nice.
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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:59 am

foregone wrote:The dragon can be touched up just a little. I get that you're going for a handpainted watercolour thing there but it could just be touched up a little.

Are you referring to the pixelly black lines? If so, I agree ;-)

A couple of the armynumbers overlap borders at the top of the map. This makes it hard to see the numbers. Possibly just a slight shift over?

Will do :roll:

I know I never replied to you earlier about this (and I may just be a little slower than the other kids in the class) but I'm still not sure how the shires will work. Can a territory which borders the northern part of a shire attack the double shire at the bottom? Maybe just explain the way in which this will function to me in small words.

Is this clearer?
    Each shire has two armies, which can attack any army in a neighbouring shire, as well as each other.
Is it going to be worth putting this attack rule onto the map?
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Re: Wales v3

Postby edbeard on Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:03 am

can you attack from an english half of a territory to a neighboring welsh territory or can you only cross over inside one territory.


I think adding the attacking gameplay rule is important and saves the trouble of ugly lines all over the place.
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Re: Wales v3

Postby foregone on Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:13 am

MrBenn wrote:
foregone wrote:I know I never replied to you earlier about this (and I may just be a little slower than the other kids in the class) but I'm still not sure how the shires will work. Can a territory which borders the northern part of a shire attack the double shire at the bottom? Maybe just explain the way in which this will function to me in small words.

Is this clearer?
    Each shire has two armies, which can attack any army in a neighbouring shire, as well as each other.
Is it going to be worth putting this attack rule onto the map?


That clears it all up for me. I think it should be included, if only because this is quite different from other maps and people like me might be confuzzled. And edbeard's point is another good reason.
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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:15 am

edbeard wrote:can you attack from an english half of a territory to a neighboring welsh territory or can you only cross over inside one territory.

I think adding the attacking gameplay rule is important and saves the trouble of ugly lines all over the place.

That is exactly the thought that has been going through my head. For clarity (to avoid lines), my thought is that an army can attack any neighbouring army (ie English or Welsh).

The crossover idea would make for slightly more interesting gameplay, although I'm not sure how to implement it without 'ugly lines' ;-)
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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:35 am

I've come over all poetic again...
    Exert you power over a whole Shire
    and one more army you shall acquire

    Groups of armies throughout the land
    will yield more armies into your hand

    To conquer the land your armies can
    attack any neighbour or same-Shire clan
Does the final couplet make enough sense?

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edit: Welsh Translation:
At choncra'r dirio'ch byddinoedd medru
rhuthr'n chymdoges ai'n un-sir chiwdod
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Re: Wales v3

Postby gimil on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:52 pm

[adv. idea]

Benny I do hope you continue with the europa map as well!
What do you know about map making, bitch?

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Re: Wales v3

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:11 pm

No worries about that ;-)

Thanks for the [Adv] tag ;-)
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