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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:17 pm

Cheers Kotaro. I think I've sorted that now with the XML update ;-) If you notice anything else, please let me know ;-)
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby Kotaro on Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:19 pm

Pfft, I'm not playing this map again! Too damn confusing, I got so lost in it, and in 1v1's! My points took a terrible dive!
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:08 am

I'm wondering if 3 neutrals on each settlement is too high? I'm playing some tournament games on Arms Race, which has 2 armies on the neutrals... I'm wondering what others think about my proposal to reduce the settlements to 2 starting neutrals?
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby yeti_c on Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:43 pm

MrBenn wrote:I'm wondering if 3 neutrals on each settlement is too high? I'm playing some tournament games on Arms Race, which has 2 armies on the neutrals... I'm wondering what others think about my proposal to reduce the settlements to 2 starting neutrals?


Works for me.

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:45 pm

me too, its a little hard to get one territory
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby wrexham on Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:46 pm

2 for me.
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:34 pm

That was a quick and easy change to make...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/1/9/2 ... XML_07.xml
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby saaimen on Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:39 pm

Hi MrBenn, nice map! I'm only in the second round of my first game on it and I like it already :)
One thing though. I know it might be a bloody stupid mistake I made and it became clear to me very quickly, but...
In the first block of the explanations, I misread it being
Capture both Shire CLANS, and the settlement and you will receive one bonus army.
I interpreted that as "When holding the Settlement (named right before and explained after that), if you have both clans aswell you get 1 bonus autodeployed on the Settlement aswell as 1 extra army to deploy elsewhere."
Of course it should be
Capture both Shire Clans and the settlement, and you will receive one bonus army.


Maybe put a comma there :)?
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby yeti_c on Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:40 pm

He's got a point!

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby Shertenn on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:23 pm

Just started playing this board (4-player, chained, no spoils).. and have some initial impressions..

1. Where are the shire names. ?? Or.. some color coding in the bonus listing..??

2. The southern 2-territory shire seems too easy to take.. especially with a random start
where someone gets a concentration there.. Maybe the other 2-bonuses should be 3..?

Other than that, it rocks..! :-) Very wild games..:-)

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby Shertenn on Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:28 pm

On reducing the neutrals.. it would definetely change the game.. and not, I think, for the better..

My reasoning is that what would happen is it would turn into a WWI type game,
with slow building up of massive armies. As it is, it's a very fluid game.. which I think
is a good thing..:-)

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby saaimen on Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:10 pm

Nice double post man ;)
I'll refrain from commenting on the 2/3 neutrals discussion, I don't feel like I have enough gameplay experience to make such judgements.
But...
Shertenn wrote:1. Where are the shire names. ?? Or.. some color coding in the bonus listing..??

Obviously, the shire names are the Settlements' names, followed by -shire.
And there IS colour coding in the bonus listing :) Just watch the 'paint spots'. But maybe they could be saturated a bit more (or something), to bring them up front a bit.

Btw, MrBenn, I know I should get into the Foundry more often, instead of making these comments when the map is nearly finished...
But I'm just good at nitpicking 8-)
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby Minister X on Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:35 am

I realize this probably isn't your responsibility, but...

Though BOB works fine for me on dozens of other maps, with Wales it hangs up while trying to calculate statistics. I operate on Vista Home Premium. None of my competitors on the map have any problem. I have no similar problems with any other apps or websites or processes. I like the map and I find BOB absolutely essential, so I appreciate your consideration of this.
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:34 am

Minister X wrote:I realize this probably isn't your responsibility, but...

Though BOB works fine for me on dozens of other maps, with Wales it hangs up while trying to calculate statistics. I operate on Vista Home Premium. None of my competitors on the map have any problem. I have no similar problems with any other apps or websites or processes. I like the map and I find BOB absolutely essential, so I appreciate your consideration of this.

Same here, and I run a mac. Interestingly Enoch the only times this has happened kid-turn are when I went 4v2 using clickies. Same situation twice ... :-k

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby GenuineEarlGrey on Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:40 pm

Played the map a few times now. It's a pleasure to play on. It looks great and I love the twist in the gameplay where you have to secure both clans and the settlement to get an extra army.

Changing settlements from n3 to n2 is really good, Please keep it at n2. Why? With this being a "small" map you only get a three armies at the start of your early turns. With n2 there is now and insentive to try and capture settlements where as before the risk was too high.

Many thanks for , E.G.
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby stringybeany on Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:02 am

for some reason BOB is choking on this game while trying to build the statistics table. By choking I mean it's caught in a loop somewhere so it never finishes building the stats table.
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:38 am

stringybeany wrote:for some reason BOB is choking on this game while trying to build the statistics table. By choking I mean it's caught in a loop somewhere so it never finishes building the stats table.

yeah, that happens on some of mine, too. only with plugins on, though. and when i switch over to Safari it's fine too. … :?

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:33 am

BOB seems to be hanging for me on a number of games/maps at the moment.... I'm not convinced it's Wales-specific :?
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby yeti_c on Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:01 pm

MrBenn wrote:BOB seems to be hanging for me on a number of games/maps at the moment.... I'm not convinced it's Wales-specific :?


I'm afraid that I think it is...

But - I haven't debugged it yet - so I could be wrong - when I do - I'll let you know!!

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:39 pm

I haven't been having problems with BoB on this map
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:51 pm

What does this error message mean?
[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIXMLHttpRequest.send]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Ben/Application%20Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/0l57fvpg.default/extensions/%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D/components/greasemonkey.js :: getFullLog :: line 3446" data: no]
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:24 am

MrBenn wrote:What does this error message mean?
[Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIXMLHttpRequest.send]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Ben/Application%20Data/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/0l57fvpg.default/extensions/%7Be4a8a97b-f2ed-450b-b12d-ee082ba24781%7D/components/greasemonkey.js :: getFullLog :: line 3446" data: no]


Something has gone wrong with the getting of the log...

That might indicate that the downloading of the log is the error - and not the Parsing of it... unsure.

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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:39 pm

Whatever it is, it sounds bad! :lol:
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:02 pm

yeti_c wrote:
MrBenn wrote:BOB seems to be hanging for me on a number of games/maps at the moment.... I'm not convinced it's Wales-specific :?


I'm afraid that I think it is...

But - I haven't debugged it yet - so I could be wrong - when I do - I'll let you know!!

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I had that weird exception error again on Charleston... so not specific to Wales methinks :?
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Re: Wales [Beta]

Postby oaktown on Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:35 am

I'm asking Andy to release this from it's BETA stage... it doesn't look as if there are any other concerns pending. =D>
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