Europe 1914 [Quenched]

[edbeard]

It feels like there's too much going on graphically.

The Entente Powers and Central Powers boxes stand out too much for me. Maybe fade the background of those boxes so the words in them are more readable and it might take the focus off of those boxes.

[qwert]

by edbeard on Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:43 pm

It feels like there's too much going on graphically.

The Entente Powers and Central Powers boxes stand out too much for me. Maybe fade the background of those boxes so the words in them are more readable and it might take the focus off of those boxes.

You are first who tell me that aim going to much on graphicaly,usualy some guys tell that aim must work on graphich

[wcaclimbing]

Breaking off from the stamp licking thread, here's the response you wanted.

I don't think this map is ready for the ideas stamp quite yet. There are a few requirements for the ideas stamp that haven't been completed/explained yet.
Here they are, written in pink:

2) Have a playable image. If we quenched it people should be able toplay on it. Ths should included the following:
* Territory names Norway and Sweden don't have names or army circles. I don't know if that is right because I haven't read the entire thread yet. But they look like normal territories, they just don't have names or circles on them. If those aren't actual territories, I think you should remove the border splitting it in half, so people don't get confused. and your territories M, A, Be, and Bs. Those will get confusing, having only one letter to represent the name. M could be mistaken for Moscow, A could be Ankara, Be could be Berlin or Belarus. That could get confusing, you should probably rework the image a bit so you could use a bigger name to represent each place.
* Working legends The Entente/Central powers boxes. Are they meant to help the map or are they just extra information boxes that don't contribute to gameplay? If they are meant to help the gameplay, they don't explain anything, they just list some flags. nothing that correlates to the map.
* Speculative Bonuses All your army bonuses are listed as 0. The map needs to have actual numbers, not just 0s, before you can get a stamp.
* Tentative Border Divisions Same problem with Norway/Sweden border. If they aren't territories, I don't think they should have a line, so no one gets confused.

If you can get each of those things, then I think you'll be ready for your stamp.
Good luck.

[qwert]

Wcaclimbing.i must say that aim very possitive supprised with these Post.
These deserve . If other mod try to work like you work,then Future of Foundry is very bright. Very clear and good explane what must to do.
I will update when i finish all these what you mention.

Working legends The Entente/Central powers boxes. Are they meant to help the map or are they just extra information boxes that don't contribute to gameplay? If they are meant to help the gameplay, they don't explain anything, they just list some flags. nothing that correlates to the map.

These is only a decorative to people understand who present what on map,you will be supprised that you have so many people who dont know nothing abouth Europe in 1914 years.

[Androidz]

Love the map Qwert.

But i aint feeling that red. Could you try useing diffrent colours?

Also since you've added the powers to the map could you try use them for unique gameplay?? I think that will give more sense since you want to add them.

[qwert]

by Androidz on Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:21 pm

Love the map Qwert.

But i aint feeling that red. Could you try useing diffrent colours?

Also since you've added the powers to the map could you try use them for unique gameplay?? I think that will give more sense since you want to add them.

Why you dont like red colour? I take these because red is nacional colour of Turkey.

Not possible to add these for unique gameplay,its only show what country belong to what powers.

[Androidz]

by Androidz on Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:21 pm

Love the map Qwert.

But i aint feeling that red. Could you try useing diffrent colours?

Also since you've added the powers to the map could you try use them for unique gameplay?? I think that will give more sense since you want to add them.

Why you dont like red colour? I take these because red is nacional colour of Turkey.

Not possible to add these for unique gameplay,its only show what country belong to what powers.

1. Its to fire'y (kinda bright). Try to saturate it a bit?

2. Ive tought about a few ways to do it Unqiue its up to you if you want to use it. (PS: i know they show the powers:D)

- Make the capital of each "Powers" Give bonus (Etc hold 3/4 Powers Captial for +3/+4)

- Another way is to give bonus for All the "normal Powers" and One bonus for all Central powers. Or all powers capitals Etc.

[qwert]

1. Its to fire'y (kinda bright). Try to saturate it a bit?

2. Ive tought about a few ways to do it Unqiue its up to you if you want to use it. (PS: i know they show the powers:D)

- Make the capital of each "Powers" Give bonus (Etc hold 3/4 Powers Captial for +3/+4)

- Another way is to give bonus for All the "normal Powers" and One bonus for all Central powers. Or all powers capitals Etc.

1.Bright? Are you sure? All colours is much darken then previous update-look page 1.
2.Its quit dificulty to achive these because you have countries who have only one terittory,and some country is full of these capitals(example Balkan).
But you can show me full list have you see these unique bonus.

[Androidz]

1. Its to fire'y (kinda bright). Try to saturate it a bit?

2. Ive tought about a few ways to do it Unqiue its up to you if you want to use it. (PS: i know they show the powers:D)

- Make the capital of each "Powers" Give bonus (Etc hold 3/4 Powers Captial for +3/+4)

- Another way is to give bonus for All the "normal Powers" and One bonus for all Central powers. Or all powers capitals Etc.

1.Bright? Are you sure? All colours is much darken then previous update-look page 1.
2.Its quit dificulty to achive these because you have countries who have only one terittory,and some country is full of these capitals(example Balkan).
But you can show me full list have you see these unique bonus.

1. I dont think they "Unite" as good with Green and orange some way. verry hard to explain:O Just try to saturate it just a littlebit for testing? (Might be the yellow background which do this.)

2. I will see what i can do...i gonna try the Idea 2. Unite All the powers...or something:D

[Cdkutusu]

Hey, Montenegro and Albania should be written completely, now they are just written M. and A.
Maybe you can say if somebody unites 1 from Entente and one from Central powers, you can give additional bonus of +1? Like eliminating one opponent in the war or something. Can be nicer like that.

Colors look nicer now, by the way

[Incandenza]

A couple small things:

Greece is misspelled as "Grecce" on both the map and the legend.

"London" seems like it should be "England".

Love the red, btw.

[qwert]

by Incandenza on Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:49 am

A couple small things:

Greece is misspelled as "Grecce" on both the map and the legend.

"London" seems like it should be "England".

Love the red, btw.

Greece-ok i will fix.
London-maybe you notice that i put all capital from major powers

I love to red colour.

by Cdkutusu on Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:40 am

Hey, Montenegro and Albania should be written completely, now they are just written M. and A.
Maybe you can say if somebody unites 1 from Entente and one from Central powers, you can give additional bonus of +1? Like eliminating one opponent in the war or something. Can be nicer like that.

Colors look nicer now, by the way

Ofcourse i will create explanation box for all short names
Be-Belgium
Bs-Bessarabia
A-Albania
M-Montenegro
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i will try to figure something abouth unique bonuses

[lt_oddball]

I thinking that if i have free space on map to create several insets for main fronts-Western front-Thessalonika front-Eastern front,but these all
depend on space.

Don't , keep it "global"..
though you may create some more smaller territories in the west and other areas where progress was small (or none at all :s) .

[lt_oddball]

I dont' like to see Italy, France, Belgium and Britain (and Ireland?) combined in one bonuszone/colour.
National pride was at its peak in those days... so keep them separate please, with individual bonuszones, and colours.
You don't combine Germany and Austria too , do you?

Let the territory sizes be defined by the likeliness for footfolk in those days to be able to move (quickly or rather not quickly) through it.
That means (again) looking at natural barriers (large rivers and mountain ranges) and ...railway lines !
The reason that Germany was initially so swift is that they had a larger raised army from onset, thus overwhelmed the Belgians/French -initially- and their railway transport from all kazernen from Germany to the west border.
I suppose only Britain and Germany had a large railway system/plan.... other places (France incl) were less dense or varied..so that means marching all the way..

Map: Take scissors, cut a horizontal line from left just above Paris and let it meet with a vertical scissors cut from above over the West German Border. Blow up that rectangle with fixed South-East corner Point until Britain shows only a part on the left side.
Germany never invaded England (and would not even be capable of doing so), so you won't miss Great-Britain as such on this Map (of course leaving one or 2 circles).
You then have the opportunity to dissect the west-front (;p) in many more smaller territories (and not having to make a separate minimap )

Don't forget to use the sea lanes and that having control over a sealane by an opponent means "starvation" of England/Britain!

[t-o-m]

qwert can we lose the exclamation marks please?
I think its a bit excessive to have all capital letters and have almost a line of exclamation marks to go with it.