On the Crowns....
Postby ZeakCytho Ā» Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:36 pm
Just a minor graphical question: why is the port icon a white star in a red circle? Shouldn't it be something that's either port-like, like an anchor, or has some British significance, like a naval ensign or something? Or does the star-circle thing have significance and I'm just ignorant?
Postby oaktown Ā» Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:09 pm
And visually I agree with that bit about the star not suggesting ports... maybe instead of making it port-like, you came up with something entirely British looking, since they are British ports? Some kind of British naval insignia? Crown?
by cairnswk Ā» Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:26 pm
Port star replaced with British Crown...v15
Postby ZeakCytho Ā» Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:03 am
The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.
by cairnswk Ā» Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:21 am
Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5
by ZeakCytho Ā» Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:13 am
Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...
by cairnswk Ā» Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:35 am
Yes, it is 18px the same as all the others....and i re-checked for you.
by ZeakCytho Ā» Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:43 am
Must be some kind of illusion...or I'm going crazy...
Oh well, nice job on the crowns. I much prefer them to the stars.
by yeti_c Ā» Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:03 am
Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...
by cairnswk Ā» Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:56 pm
Mmmmm, you are changing you're mind lately.
Crowns are a lot nicer now IMHO.
by brandoncfi Ā» Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:51 pm
yeti_c wrote:Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...
C.
I would have to agree...but of course you can't make everyone happy
by oaktown Ā» Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:19 am
Since there doesn't seem to be any outstanding gameplay concerns being discussed, and mine have all been addressed, I guess there's nothing left for me to do here.
Gameplay Stamp
I like the crowns, but the color doesn't seem to fit the map's overall palette. (Says the colorblind gameplay guy!)
by qwert Ā» Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:32 am
hmm,why you change your previious Stars and put crown? Stars look much better then these crowns.
by cairnswk Ā» Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:19 am
Because after putting crowns, i think they look better now.
by The Neon Peon Ā» Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:35 pm
If we are keeping the crowns, could you change the constrast between the colors of the crowns slightly to make it a little more? The orange-yellow blends in with the red.
Also, they seem rather jagged round the edges. Possibly smooth them out a little?
by cairnswk Ā» Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:28 pm
The Neon Peon wrote:If we are keeping the crowns, could you change the constrast between the colors of the crowns slightly to make it a little more? The orange-yellow blends in with the red.
Contrast given at 36.
Also, they seem rather jagged round the edges. Possibly smooth them out a little?
They look fine to me.
by asl80 Ā» Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:01 pm
looking good cairns, good job.
keep the crowns!
by yeti_c Ā» Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:44 am
I think the Crowns clash a bit - and in Cyprus it almost disappears.
C.
by Ogrecrusher Ā» Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:47 pm
I also don't like the crowns
by cairnswk Ā» Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:05 pm
I am not doing a poll for this one.
Final. The crowns stay.
I believe they are perfectly clear.
by gimil Ā» Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:33 pm
Graphics stamp
Well done old buddy.
by yeti_c Ā» Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:15 am
I still think this is a concern.
C.
by cairnswk Ā» Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:20 pm
I don't
by yeti_c Ā» Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:19 am
I still think that this is a concern. (the crowns)
C.
by cairnswk Ā» Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:22 am
don't. Now leave alone...you've had three goes at this and i am not going to change it. so.....
by yeti_c Ā» Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:27 am
But - IT LOOKS SHIT - it's totally not upto your usual standard of work... - If I were you I wouldn't be proud of it - come on - you KNOW you can do better.
C.
by cairnswk Ā» Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:38 am
No C...i think it looks fine.
You think it looks shit, and it may not be up to your standard, but since this is subjective, and I am happy with it, then leave it go, for God's sake. I've refused three times now. Let it go.
by yeti_c Ā» Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:51 am
There are other people that also mentioned it so you've refused it more than 3 times - which to me means that something needs to be done about it.
and one comments by WM (which i will ignore) and the last one by oaktown above.
1. It was oaktown who convinced me to change to crowns after zeak's comments
2. After some checking of the crowns for zeak (who preferred them to stars) C arrives and prefers the stars.
3. oaktown prefers the crowns but not the colour (from a colourblind guy - his words)
4. qwert prefers the stars
5. Neon Peon asks for alteration to crowns and gets his contrast check done.
6. asl80 says keep the crowns
7. C still not happy with the crowns..he still prefers the stars.
8. ogrecrusher doesn't like the crowns
9. gimil has no issues with the crowns
10. C still has issues with crowns...he didn't like them in the first place.
11. oaktown now backing up behind C. with some excuse about non 3-D
For Crowns:
cairnswk
zeak
gimil (assumption since no comment on crowns and graphic stamp given)
asl80
neon peon
and from the lack of comments, i can assume everyone else who might have viewed the map
Against the crowns:
Yeti_C (who never liked them in the first place preferring stars)
qwert (who preferred stars)
brandocfi (who prefers stars)
ogrecrusher
and oaktown (who likes the crowns but is colourblind and now appears to be backing up C. with comments about contrast)
Honestly, guys. I really don't beleive this.
C. You are the one who is leading this little charge. You've never liked the crowns from the outset and appear set on getting your way, which is something i've noticed about you over my maps that you've commented on....you get hold of something and you don't let iut go until you get your own way. Well that won't happen here. You can say "I'd told you so" again later, it still won't matter to me.You can all on about various issues.
I have stated before and i will state this one last time.
The will be no poll done.
I am happy with the crowns and their appearance as they are.
There will be no changes made to them.
If you don't believe me, then oaktown you can move this map to the junk pile rile now and it will never be quenched.
This map is done as far as i am concerned.
There are maps in this place that have been quenched with far less standard of graphic ability that this one, and since I am the mapmaker on this map and am happy with it, then it goes as is or it doesn't go at all. I have addressed small issues with crowns from commentors and am happy with the result.
And i will also add this, I make maps here because i enjoy doing so. Each of my maps is different in flavour. Some of the style is similar because i use Fireworks and that has limitations.
I do not get paid for the time i put into these maps apart from a paltry membership which now means nothing after so many maps.
I enjoy what i do graphically, and will challenge myself when i deem it is necessary to challenge myself, not when others cannot get their own-way.
Version 15 remains as is.
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