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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ogrecrusher on Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:42 am

I've played 2 flat rate double games on this map and they've both gone the same way. Someone grabs Russian Territories Early, the players in the middle attack them, and then the colony players come through to win. From this, having been in both positions, we won the second game, it's clear that it's really hard to get to the bottom of the map from the top. This weakens Russian Territories enough in my eyes, I doubt another attack route into it is needed.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Gilligan on Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:50 am

I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:43 am

Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ogrecrusher on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:45 am

cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??

I didn't even know there was a connection there to make clearer!
You could move the crown or draw and arrow surely? :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Gilligan on Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:04 am

cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??


Normally... Except maybe Forbidden City and your Poison Rome... :lol: ;)

But I didn't even see a connection, and got attacked at Medina from Akbah.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:49 am

Cairns...the neutral region below Italian Abyssinia, shouldn't it be called Abyssinia instead of Abyssina?
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:28 pm

saaimen wrote:Nice map, cairnswk :)

Just one thing. I don't know if this has been discussed before because I didn't read the whole 23 pages.
But the one thing that really caught my eye was the lower left corner. The placement of the soldiers' image and the symbol legend doesn't seem right to me. My feeling tells me the soldiers should be moved up and left a bit in that grid, and maybe the text should be centered with the symbol above it.
But that's just my feeling. Maybe you can understand, it seems a bit randomly placed in an otherwise so well-balanced map.
My 2 cents ;)


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cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??

I didn't even know there was a connection there to make clearer!
You could move the crown or draw and arrow surely? :)


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cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??


Normally... Except maybe Forbidden City and your Poison Rome... :lol: ;)

But I didn't even see a connection, and got attacked at Medina from Akbah.


Ruben Cassar wrote:Cairns...the neutral region below Italian Abyssinia, shouldn't it be called Abyssinia instead of Abyssina?


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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby saaimen on Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:03 pm

cairnswk wrote:
saaimen wrote:Nice map, cairnswk

Just one thing. I don't know if this has been discussed before because I didn't read the whole 23 pages.
But the one thing that really caught my eye was the lower left corner. The placement of the soldiers' image and the symbol legend doesn't seem right to me. My feeling tells me the soldiers should be moved up and left a bit in that grid, and maybe the text should be centered with the symbol above it.
But that's just my feeling. Maybe you can understand, it seems a bit randomly placed in an otherwise so well-balanced map.
My 2 cents
How is this guys.

Well... It's better already :) But still I think the soldiers (with the now better centered text) should be moved up and left. It just looks a bit weird.
I'm guessing maybe the whole soldiers-on-the-grid thing is one image and you can't change their relative positions? In that case, you might zoom in a bit, align the right and bottom side, and cut away on the left and the top.

Or am I being naggy :D?
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:13 pm

saaimen wrote:...
Well... It's better already :) But still I think the soldiers (with the now better centered text) should be moved up and left. It just looks a bit weird.
I'm guessing maybe the whole soldiers-on-the-grid thing is one image and you can't change their relative positions? In that case, you might zoom in a bit, align the right and bottom side, and cut away on the left and the top.

Or am I being naggy :D?

the later i think. I have deliverately placed this so that the guns don't overlap.
Next time, please attend the map beforeit goes to final forge for these adjustments. Thanks. :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:46 pm

Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:34 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.

:oops: Ruben, it'll have to wait again now. I'm in the middle of studying for uni exams. Thanks. :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:58 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.

:oops: Ruben, it'll have to wait again now. I'm in the middle of studying for uni exams. Thanks. :)


Good luck for your exams! :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ogrecrusher on Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:01 pm

Love the update.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:23 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.

:oops: Ruben, it'll have to wait again now. I'm in the middle of studying for uni exams. Thanks. :)


Good luck for your exams! :)

Thanks Ruben, very kind of you. I think i did OK. :)

Ogrecrusher wrote:Love the update.

Excellent.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby oaktown on Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:32 pm

it's been two weeks since the last concern, and that was just spelling. if there are no objections I think this map can be promoted out of beta. =D>
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby captainwalrus on Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:31 pm

Does anyone else notice that the british colony bonus when combined with the italian and french colonies is way to big? It is 3 territories to defend and it is worth +9! I would lower british colonies to +6 if it were me.


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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby el-presidente on Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:29 pm

That does seem a little unfair, british colonies should be 6.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Gilligan on Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:25 am

captainwalrus wrote:Does anyone else notice that the british colony bonus when combined with the italian and french colonies is way to big? It is 3 territories to defend and it is worth +9! I would lower british colonies to +6 if it were me.


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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby captainwalrus on Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:28 pm

the problem is only when it is paired with the Italian and french colonies. You could start by taking those and expand out into the british territories. I noticed the problem when I won a game. After I has one bonus to support my invasion it was easy to take the french italian, and then british colonies.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby TaCktiX on Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:04 pm

I'm going to have to agree. The game of WWI: Ottoman I won was because I held Italy/France first, then expanded to Britain and from there the rest of the map was easy to defeat.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Quenched]

Postby MrBenn on Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:38 pm

This map is now in full Live Play.

Nice job Cairns =D>
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Quenched]

Postby GoldBomber on Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:00 pm

The map is great, but I would change "Hussein of Mecca" to "The Hejaz". That's what the region was (and still sometimes is) called. Sharif Hussein was merely the guardian of the holy sites in Mecca and Medina (Yathrib).
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Quenched]

Postby Hatchman on Fri May 01, 2009 5:22 am

I love this map. One of my favourites. Nice job!
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Quenched]

Postby Incandenza on Tue May 05, 2009 5:01 pm

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I'm playing on the map for the first time, and I just saw that "Bahgdad" should be "Baghdad".
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Quenched]

Postby cairnswk on Tue May 05, 2009 5:44 pm

Incandenza wrote:Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I'm playing on the map for the first time, and I just saw that "Bahgdad" should be "Baghdad".

Yes Inca....it has been mentioned, but i simply haven't bothered changing it yet. ;)
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