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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby NightWolf on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:36 pm

No territories were in the way, and when I tried to reinforce to territories adjacent to Egypt from Pakistan, I got the "Illegal Reinforcement" message. And just so you know, I am using the Unlimited Fortification Setting.

EDIT: I suppose I should add that I'm having this problem in game 3807601.
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby AAFitz on Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:49 pm

max is gr8 wrote:Yeti, name a valid reason why this map should not be changed?


because people will leave if it does
people will never ever stop complaining
its perfect as is
its the most fair map on the site
its a map of the world on a world domination game
no one but yourself wants it changed
the change is being requested for trivial reasons

need more?

I think perhaps you should play more than 30 times on it before suggesting its revamp...ive played it 740ish times
It has one minor error with click maps in africa...but other than that, its the epitome of world domination

If there arent copyright issues...keep it the way it is, and many have grown to love....
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby reggie_mac on Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:18 pm

I'd have to agree, this is my favorite map now that the classic classic has gone.
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby OnlyAmbrose on Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:21 pm

AAFitz wrote:
max is gr8 wrote:Yeti, name a valid reason why this map should not be changed?


because people will leave if it does
people will never ever stop complaining
its perfect as is
its the most fair map on the site
its a map of the world on a world domination game
no one but yourself wants it changed
the change is being requested for trivial reasons

need more?

I think perhaps you should play more than 30 times on it before suggesting its revamp...ive played it 740ish times
It has one minor error with click maps in africa...but other than that, its the epitome of world domination

If there arent copyright issues...keep it the way it is, and many have grown to love....


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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby yeti_c on Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:14 am

AAFitz wrote:It has one minor error with click maps in africa...but other than that, its the epitome of world domination


Interesting - I assume this is due to army numbers being too close together - and it's easy to click on the wrong territory?

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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby max is gr8 on Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:43 am

because people will leave if it does - People left because classic was practically removed
people will never ever stop complaining - People will
its perfect as is - Except for the fact that the graphics are not as good as most new maps
its the most fair map on the site - Game play would probably not change
its a map of the world on a world domination game - That wouldn't change (See above)
no one but yourself wants it changed - ZiM agrees that the graphics on the site have improved
the change is being requested for trivial reasons - Graphics should be updated to keep the quality of the maps at its current level
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby pinkflaminko on Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:36 pm

not sure, but its the coolest map ever seen
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby tomzo46 on Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:08 pm

This is really an imaginative map.

One thing is missing, though. What's the value of the Antarctic regions? Don't let us guess, Gilligan. ;)
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby tomzo46 on Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:16 pm

I meant to say, zim. I thought it was by gilligan at first.

This map is far better than Classic Shapes -- even before CC had to change countries to numbers and continents to shapes.
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby the.killing.44 on Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:20 pm

tomzo46 wrote:What's the value of the Antarctic regions? Don't let us guess, Gilligan. ;)

a map of the world is imaginative? whatever, yes it is a great map
anyway, holding Antarctica has no bonus

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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby Gilligan on Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:42 pm

tomzo46 wrote:This is really an imaginative map.

One thing is missing, though. What's the value of the Antarctic regions? Don't let us guess, Gilligan. ;)


Yeah, I was wondering where my name came from all of this :lol: ;)
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby WetLight on Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:53 am

EDIT: Nevermind, i found this:
http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/World_2_1.xml


Great map, my favorite! Thanks!

A few things are not very clear, is New Zealand (because of the color) part of East Indies? And if it is, (again because of the color) East Indies has 9 terrritories (or 10, is Hawaii because of the color part of the East Indies?)! If East Indies has 9 (or 10) territories and still worth only 4 troops, how come Russia with only 5 territories is worth 4 troops? Furthermore, the African Horn (4 territories) is worth 3 troops while Australia (with 4 territories?!) is worth only 2??
And in La Plata is Tierra del Fuego part of La Plata? And Chile i suppose is part of nothing (i mean of bonus)??

I know i have a lot of questions, but since i am a noob who has been playing non-stop for the past 3 days, i believe that my doubts might be shared by a lot of people who hasn't memorized what is what in the map!!

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troop reinforcement

Postby Shivas on Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:02 pm

This is a little frustrating. While in game 4146710 i attempted to reinforce my partners troops with some of my troops from Pakistan. I'm the yellow. Partner is blue. .Game would only allow me to transfer to adjacent Iran. I wanted to move troops to Yeman. Game setting is "Unlimited."
This is my first doubles game but I think I know what to do. Am I missing something? Is it me or the game?

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Re: troop reinforcement

Postby cramill on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:51 pm

Shivas wrote:This is a little frustrating. While in game 4146710 i attempted to reinforce my partners troops with some of my troops from Pakistan. I'm the yellow. Partner is blue. .Game would only allow me to transfer to adjacent Iran. I wanted to move troops to Yeman. Game setting is "Unlimited."
This is my first doubles game but I think I know what to do. Am I missing something? Is it me or the game?

Shivas

Since its a FOW game, no one else can see what's going on. So, it might be a border issue, or not being able to fort through your partner.
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby Bootsmann Rommel on Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:34 pm

Heyy there guys!

If you look at my game history, you can tell I LOVE World 2.1, and I also love the dymanics and layout of this map. I would love to play it and see it being played. I think that the updates to Australia make it a bit more desirable. Hope to see it soon on game finder!
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Tierra Del Fuego in World 2.1

Postby Yorick on Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:52 am

Is it part of South America or Antarctica?
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Re: Tierra Del Fuego in World 2.1

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:55 am

somebody please lock this, this is not the place to be asking that, and yes it is a part of south america
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Re: Tierra Del Fuego in World 2.1

Postby Yorick on Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:03 am

Where else to ask other than the place where the maps are made? I did a search and couldn't find the answer anywhere else. What's the big deal?
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Re: Tierra Del Fuego in World 2.1

Postby sailorseal on Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:09 am

Yorick wrote:Where else to ask other than the place where the maps are made? I did a search and couldn't find the answer anywhere else. What's the big deal?

You either post it on the map thread or in Q&A
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Re: Tierra Del Fuego in World 2.1

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:10 am

or just pm somebody, or just look at the map
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby Thezzaruz on Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:05 am

WetLight wrote:A few things are not very clear, is New Zealand (because of the color) part of East Indies?


You might have found most of this out by now but anyway.

No, New Zeeland is a part of the Oceania bonus but not of the East Indies bonus. It might be somewhat confusing with the double levels of continent bonuses but IMO the colours and the legend are quite clear.



WetLight wrote:And if it is, (again because of the color) East Indies has 9 terrritories (or 10, is Hawaii because of the color part of the East Indies?)! If East Indies has 9 (or 10) territories and still worth only 4 troops, how come Russia with only 5 territories is worth 4 troops?


East Indies contains 6 territories (with 2 that only borders internally with other EI territs) and Russia contains 5 that all borders with other continents.



WetLight wrote:Furthermore, the African Horn (4 territories) is worth 3 troops while Australia (with 4 territories?!) is worth only 2??


The Horn contains 4 territs (1 internal) and Australia contains 3 territs (1 internal) plus the fact that The Horn is right smack in the middle of things while Australia is somewhat in a corner.



Yorick wrote:Is it part of South America or Antarctica?


Tierra del Fuego is a part of South America but not of La Plata, just as its colour shows.



WetLight wrote:And in La Plata is Tierra del Fuego part of La Plata? And Chile i suppose is part of nothing (i mean of bonus)??


See above, and Chile works just like Tierra del Fuego.
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an issue

Postby jbeaver on Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:04 pm

in fog of war game i got message
X receives 6 troops for holding ?
the question is how is it possible to get +6 single bonus on this map?
Is it a map issue or a fog of war engine issue?
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Re: an issue

Postby gimil on Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:08 pm

jbeaver wrote:in fog of war game i got message
X receives 6 troops for holding ?
the question is how is it possible to get +6 single bonus on this map?
Is it a map issue or a fog of war engine issue?


It could be a +6 for holding europe. The way this map in paticular is coded you get:

+2 Scandanavia
+3 Western Europe
+6 for the rest of europe

=11 in total
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby vincent 346 on Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:15 am

I love this map! it's my favorite. One thing I would change is putting in eastern Pakistan or Bangladesh because when the British did the India split, they had some Pakistan on the west of India, and some Pakistan on the east of India, with a segment of India's land in between the two Pakistan portions. It would be hilarious putting this into the map. If a world map 2.2 is ever made, this should be done or putting in Bangladesh should be done.
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Re: World 2.0/1 Map [Quenched]

Postby cu chullain on Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:22 pm

I'm not sure how the game mechanics act, or what flexibility there is, but is there any thought in World 2.2 where a player going in a position other than 1st gets some sort of "offset bonus." What I'm seeing is that by default, if you go 2nd in a 2 person game, as long as you're not playing an idiot, your territory bonus is going to yield 1 fewer troops, guaranteed. In a 3 person game, I see the same thing happen, but since there are 2 other people, even in 3rd you sometime keep enough to get 12 troops.

In addition, unless it is a completely even drop (which almost NEVER happens), whomever goes first really defines the game. If they're only 1 territory away from 2 small bonuses, respectively, or even 2 territories away from a larger bonus, once they secure it, it FORCES the 2nd player (in a 2 person game) to attack and try to take the bonuses away. If player 2 doesn't do so, not only are they in a small deficit from the loss of that initial troop in round 1, should they try to secure their own bonus(es), they are digging an even deeper whole, as the 1st player can now act with the bonuses already held. Player 1 (who now has an extra troop from round 1 and whatever bonus[es] they earned, assuming player 2 focuses on their own bonuses), can now focus on taking away the bonus(es) of player 2 or securing more of their own.

Again, I don't know if there's a way to work with the game mechanics, but this is my favorite map by far, but it puts player 2 in a 2 person game in a rather significant hole in about 80% of the games I've seen. I know that this could be said of virtually any other map, based on the randomness of the drop, but it seems that due to the larger number of troops received immediately, it manifests itself much more in World 2.1.
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