MrBenn wrote:I'm not sure if 120 is too many... I'd prefer something around the 60-80 mark...
pamoa wrote:Well it seems that everybody who voted, except me, think it should be a VLM (very large map). If so, it would be a completely different map and I may need time to make a decent proposal for such a monster!
pamoa wrote:Thanks for your point of view ZeakCytho, but as I told before I'm trying to stick to some "real" order of battle so my choice is between around 30 territories or 120. But 120 is a bit over the top, so I'll stay around 30.
I will follow MrBenn suggestion by adding the 3 villages where they were heavy fighting: Pratzen (centre) Skolnitz and Telnitz (south). So their will be 32 starting position + 2 neutrals.
TheShiningSun wrote:At Austerlitz the order of battle wasn't constant as you had numerous divisions moving especially on the coalition side as they tried to overwhelm the right flank, and then of course you had Napoleon's charge down the centre of the coalition which broke all the ranks, so perhaps if you chose a point in the middle of the battle for example as Napoleon is beginning to make his famous charge you could increase the number of territories. Just a thought
captainwalrus wrote:The bonuses are weird...
captainwalrus wrote:The bonuses are weird. I don't really know where the centre left wing and right wing is, especially because the map is more vertical than horizontal. Also, it would be interesting to have some sort of victory conditions which make Napoleon and Alexander more important.A battle centred around them would be fun....
grayhawke wrote:Might I re-suggest adding artillery? say 8 artillery territs (5 Allies, 3 French)? As well as increasing the territs they would also provide the possibility of mid-to-long-range bombardment, restricted by position (left, centre, right) maybe? If 8 is thought too many then maybe 5? (split 3,2)
qwert wrote:hmm,im look on Order of battle in Wikipedia,and i belive that you can create close to 50 territory.
Keeping to Division level I don't see how we get much beyond 30 inf.+cav. territs. The leitmotif for this map appears to be "simplicity" and the current 29+2+3 territs supports that, though I think my suggestion for 29+3+6 territs also keeps the simplicitly while improving game play.
Speaking for myself I like this map and would like to see a series of such "simple" Napoleonic battle maps including one for Waterloo.
by pamoa » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:25 am
Qwert if you want another map make another map!
grayhawke I'll look at your proposal no time right now but seems interesting
cairnswk wrote:Do not end the project, otherwise i will have to do it....hahahaha!!
Please go on and do a medium size version + 32 armies....i think 60-70 should be a good number
This is an important historical map and should be in the cc collection. Good luck.
qwert wrote:hmm, I look on Order of battle in Wikipedia,and I believe that you can create close to 50 territory.
qwert wrote:Mine apology, I read some conversation about adding more territory(and these is possible), but if you got something against mine simple suggestion, then I will remove from these topic permanently. Sorry for all problems what I create. If you want I can erase these previous post with proposed territory,to people don't be confused with these idea.
ben79 wrote:continue la ta map .. j'aime bien le concept et tu devrais dire dans ta mini-histoire que le move que Napoleon a fait à cette bataille était du jamais vu en cette époque et lui a valu l'admiration de tous !!! ben
grayhawke wrote:I still feel a few more territs would not go amiss - another 4 would give 7-players 5 territs, and 6-players 6 territs.
I'd suggest another 3 villages (Augzed, Hostieradek, and Holubitz) plus the Austrian Commander, FML Prince Liechtenstein (no separate bonus but perhaps +1 for all 3 Commanders)
grayhawke wrote:I also think it might be helpful if, rather than talking of left and right wings, the terms north flank and south flank were used.
grayhawke wrote:Victory conditions
- French victory - hold Napoleon + French centre + Allied centre (16 territs)
- Allied victory - hold Alexandre + Liechtenstein + Allied centre and south + French south + Pratzen (16 territs)
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